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Dreams...ugh...so hard... Its hard enough for us to wake up, put on a smile, and face the day. The least we can hope for is peaceful happy dreams instead of ones that linger and pull us apart.

I can't believe he has gone so long without contact. HUGS neph!

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Thanks everyone. Did get a little sleep. Did a little praying when I went back to bed, and this sleep was peaceful. I still feel like I could use a little more though. ;\)

Today is a new day. I see patches of blue sky behind white clouds. S2 was asking to go to the park yesterday, so maybe we will try that for a while today. Otherwise, I don't really have any plans except to clean the house and get past page 8 of Crucial Convos.

Morgan, I think the full moon is definitely playing a part. Seems like everyone had a rough week. Hopefully we are all over the worst of it.

Happy Sunday everyone.


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H home (Retro) 2-15-08
"Today is the tomorrow of yesterday." -- S9
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Neph are you enjoying the book? I'm going to try to get it later today if I get a shot and it's in stock.

Has anyone here read "A Return to Love"...can't remember the author right now but a friend recommended it for me. I'll be looking for that one as well.

Hope today is better for you. No more bad dreams...they suck.


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hope you like the book, neph. and definitely hope we are over a hump, at least for this week.


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Separated-6/7/07
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"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'"

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That dream sounds like someone is trying to tell you something. Sounds like you worry that the reason your H is hesitant to come home for good is because he is still afraid of getting in trouble. That is the thing between the affair space and the married space. One space already accepts the affair so it seems safer. I am not saying your H has even had an affair. That EA stuff is also kind of nebulous to me. Thank goodness for those silver linings.


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I think I messed up, in a way, when I did my "The kids deserve a full time father. I deserve a full time husband" speach. I think that is too overwhelming. It was an "all or nothing" statement. So now we get nothing.

I'm not very far in the book. It's one of those things. I want to make time to read, but it's just not happening. However, from what I read, I think it is going to help a lot in my sitch. Respectful conversation is difficult for H and I. One of us is always taking a low blow at the other.


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take your time with it, neph. read. process. read more.

and yeah, the above is a classic either/or sucker conversation. hopefully the book will help us both do better in the future.


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Went to the farmer's market this morning then to the park. I sent H a couple of pics from the park. S2 has been talking about him a lot since yesterday. I'm not sure why. S2 asked to call him on the drive home. I decided to go ahead and call. I knew H was in class so I figured I could manage to leave a nice message reequesting that he give S2 a call when he had a chance. Imagune my surprise when he answered the phone. I have to admit I was caught off guard. I could hear kids in the background. It's their first day back (teachers had to go on Friday).

Me: Um. I'm sorry. I was going to leave you a message.
H: It's ok.
Me: S2 has been asking for you. He wants to say hi.
H: OK
I could hear the students in the background.
Me: Is now an ok time, or do you want to call back.
H: Now is ok.

So I gave the phone to S2. They talked for a few. Then S2 says "He wants to talk to you, Mom." I can't believe this kid's vocal skills. Sometimes he says this because H says "Let me talk to Mama." Sometimes he just says it because he thinks that should be the routine. So I don't really know, but I took the phone so as not to risk being rude.

Me: OK, I think he's done now (trying to be pleasant or, at leats neutral)
H: Yeah. (silence) Thanks.
Me: mm hmm (affirmative)
H: Thank you.
Me: Your welcome
(silence)
H: You can call again if you want
Me: ok
(silence)
Me: ok, bye
H: bye

It was a little awkward to say the least. Over all, I guess it was positive just by the fact that he actually answered his phone.

You see, it doesn't matter how long I go dark. He is so stubborn! He will not call me first. He is much more patient than I am by nature, and he knows it. He's a proud, stubborn man.

Trudging along in the crucial convos. Definitely loaded. It is not something you can skim through. You really have to take your time to fully digest everything.


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Isn't is weird to get off the phone with your H and for them NOT to say ILY when they get off the phonbe afte it has been sucj a routine. Same thing with GOODBYE kisses. My kids still to this day expect to see us kiss goodbye!!! awkward


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Isn't is weird to get off the phone with your H and for them NOT to say ILY when they get off the phone? After all, it has been such a routine. Same thing with GOODBYE kisses. My kids still to this day expect to see us kiss goodbye!!! awkward


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"Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day."
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