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#773861 08/03/06 01:15 PM
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Karen any chance her H's butt rubbings are an attempt to get you to escalate to taking charge?
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Yes I think they are an attempt at that or at least an H type compliment of sorts. However, last night I went to bed at 11:30 (my alarm rings at 6am) and he didn't come to bed until an hour or so later, then the baby woke up restless and ended up in bed with us too. The only reason we allow her in our bed is because we don't want her to disturb DD9 who she shares a room with. Anyway, H had come to bed and was "all up on me" cuddling in the spoon position, when baby cried I thought "$$%$$". I think I actually heard an audible sigh when I left the cuddle position - he does actually enjoy some contact with me.

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Have you ever just whapped your H and said, 'when you say -take me I am yours -you are stealing my line? and futhermore your religious repressions and incorrect social conditioning are preventing you from having a really amazing sex life with me?' and then give him the blow by blow how and whys? You said logical convos work with him. Whap him with it. soon. or tease him.... its too bad you are sick. and then give a graphic description of how great sex would be right then. if he werent sick.
HP's ideas were good too about training Mr.Pot
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Well I do like the first idea. Lately he hasn't used that line but remains on his back while rubbing me wherever he can reach. So I'm thinking of a modification to...."I'd like to be the one on my back tonight..." I have confronted the "sick" issue before and let him know what he was missing. He looked at me like he was a chemo patient to whom I was saying, "Too bad you won't be eating this delicious chocolate cake." - shocked that I would say something in such bad taste to someone who was so clearly suffering.

Go figure.


He leaves for his annual "Boy trip" on Saturday morning. Tonight we have a "date" to a fundraiser that my agency attends every year. I plan to get home early enough to get all dressed up and look hot, hot, hot. It is a long drive through some country roads to the place. Maybe I'll see if I can get him to pull over on the ride home. Got a new pink lace bra/panties ensemble to wear under my dress.

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So, no chance to get h to pull over for some nookie on the way home. It was 100 degrees at the event and we were hot, sweaty and tired. Top that off with the kids calling on the cell phone at 9:30 reporting that the baby won't go to sleep. H was in a frustrated mood since his day had not gone well. He acknowledged that he was in an irritated, frustrated mood and he was the model of sociability the entire evening, the event was lovely and we had fun.

We got home showered, picked up after the babysitters, watched a little tv and went to bed where I fell asleep almost immediately and H began talking my ear off. He does this sometimes when he's feeling too distant from me. He talked about how frustrating this week has been, how sick he's been, how he had wanted us to have a dinner date before his trip, how he wants us to have sex tonight (he leaves at 7am on Saturday).

It wasn't very romantic but it was a nice husband/wife convo. When we got our shower I pointed out to him that Husband 101 dictates that when one's wife is dressed to the nines for an event you say something nice and he didn't say anything. He apologized but didn't follow up with a compliment (he never would in that sitch). I mean, he didn't say - "Honey you looked so hot tonight all dressed up and I can't wait to boink you tommorrow" or anything like that but he's trying.

My boss brought his new lady friend who has some spectacular paid for hooters and I commented that if we don't get preggo in the next year that I want to spend some money on some "home improvements" like that. He made a point to say that he likes my breasts just as they are. Well, what I mean to say is, I think he's trying.

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Karen,

Out of curiosity...why would you want to get a boob job? Would it be for yourself, or so your H might think you look hotter? Honestly, just curious.

I'm someone who never had to worry about not having enough in that area...a friend I've had for geesh...30 some years well, was somewhat equipped like Grace off of Will & Grace LOL. She did go out and purchase herself a pair, which she loves. However, at the time she also had her tummy tucked and had lipo....all in the attempt to meet "perfection" for her H (XH now). Needless to say, none of that worked.

Fortunately, she's happy with how she looks....and she recognizes now that she did all of that for the wrong reasons. Although she would have had the boob job anyway...for herself.

So...I hope, if you do seriously consider having that procedure, that you do it for YOU...not for anyone else, or what you hope it might gain you. You are an awesome woman just as you are!

On the "false advertising" subject...there's also a woman here in my office; she's nearing 40, just as I am. She's so tanned she looks fake, her hair is long, dyed blonde and streaked to high heaven, she wears way too much makeup, and dresses far too young. She looks like a Barbi experiment gone awry to me.

I look at this woman and can't help but wonder about the issues she must have. She's a sweet hearted woman, desperately trying to look young & hot for her BF (she's been cheated on before). The sad thing is that in her attempt to remain young & hot....she's looking so fake, so odd on the outside. It's just too bad that the outside doesn't match her inside. IMPO...if she wouldn't try so hard to attain "perfection" she'd be so much more attractive. There is an absolutely stunning woman hiding behind that spray on tan, Clarol hair dye, and Mary Kay makeup (have no idea if she's had plastic surgery too...but wouldn't surprise me a bit.)

I know that took a sidetrack...sorry, your comment just got me to thinking that's all.

I'm not someone who would ever go under the knife for "home improvements" LOL. I would however do that if for some reason I were disfigured due to a car wreck or something like that....or perhaps lost a breast due to a masectomy.

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MJ,

My H hates all things fake although I don't think he would mind if I had bigger breasts. He has NEVER said anything negative about my body. If I did any "work" on it, it would be strictly for me. There is a lot I would never do - face lift, lipo, collagen lips but there are some things that have great "satisfaction" ratings among people are getting them - eyelid tuck (blepharoplasty), tummy tuck, and breast jobs are among them. My H even complains that I cover my grey now. He would never suggest any plastic surgery. Believe me.

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Karen,

That's cool. I have no problem with someone having something done...for themselves, just not for someone else KWIM?

My mom had her eyes done nearly 30 years ago. She had always had these major bags under her eyes, which made her feel so very self-concious....so she finally decided to have the procedure to remove/minimize them....she's so glad she did too. She did that for herself though.

Those women who seem to be addicted to plastic surgery sure are worrisom to me though...can you imagine the self-perception issues they must have? YIKES!

I have no grey in my hair, I joke it'll just fade to pink with the red in it. Sounds like a really bad country song "Fade to Pink" LOL. I don't think I'd have an issue with coloring it though when it begins to fade some (as long as it goes along with how I look at that age).

My Aunt (who is in her 70's)...dyed her hair red for YEARS, I don't think I ever knew her with her hair any different. A few years ago she fought breast cancer and lost her hair. She decided not to dye it anymore once it grew back in....her hair is now absolutely gorgeous...all white. She looks so much more attractive to me the way she is now. She definitely doesn't look 70, and she's such a wonderfully attractive mature woman. The dyed hair on her actually made her look older than she does now. It's amazing how that can work LOL.

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Karen, didn't you tell us one time you were a size 2? From my size 12 perspective I can only imagine that you are trying to improve on perfection...

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Re; Karen1 I commented that if we don't get preggo in the next year that I want to spend some money on some "home improvements" like that. He made a point to say that he likes my breasts just as they are.

What if he "really" thinks what is there does not need improving?

I will start of by saying maybe I shouldn't respond to your post, but here goes anyway.

I am not one of those bigger is better guys. It took me a while to be bold enough to say that. I understand "Your" desire to look a certain way and am not discounting that part.

As a person that has been somewhat interested in looking at curvy women with the 70% hips to waist ratio as somewhat ideal, I no longer see it that way.

BB had breast cancer and that event changed my whole outlook on size. BB wanted a boob job at one time. If she would have gotten one, it would have been for "her" as what she has/had was fine with me. Fast forward 30 years, even with 1 and 1/2 breast, post breast cancer, she is fine in my books and she no longer wants a boob job.

On top of me not wanting her to get implants is the fact that that I hear some breast cancers are more difficult to detect, but I don't follow that subject other than what BB tells me.

Karen1, I don't want to tell you or advise you to do anything or not do anything. I am simply saying if I am fine with what BB has or doesn't have, I am sure there are some other men that feel the same.

I really don't profess to know what your H feels/thinks about you. I would imagine or he should be more concerned about your long term health than the eye-candy effect than implants can provide.

If you get bigger boobs then he might feel he needs to make his D!ck larger. Just more stress. But I really don't know.

Just trying to say good health is more important than boob size. From what I know, you being slim and trim would be an asset in many peoples books.

Just one man's opinion Karen1.

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Lou,

That was a wonderful post. Thank you. I have been monumentally busy and have only posted on other's threads for a while.

All,

Well, whaddya know....H came back from his weeklong guy trip and he's been angling for some "glad to see ya sex" but circumstances have intervened. He and baby had a bedtime ritual going and he did it with her every night so when he went away her bedtime schedule go all messed up because I'm not him.

Upon his return, she has really "punished" him for being gone. Won't stay in the bed. Won't go to sleep. Tosses and turns and kicks even in our bed. She also calls for Mommy when he tries to pat her to sleep. It has been horrible. Finally, last night her exhaustion took over and he was able to walk her back to her bed three times until she stayed for the entire night. Whoppeee!!!!!!!! By this point, my exhaustion had taken over and I fell asleep before he even made it back in the bedroom. Not only was I exhausted from baby's nighttime wanderings but I'm preggo again. I have lab tests on Wednesday and Friday to see how things look but my initial numbers were excellent. So, no nookie but I have high hopes for tonight. Of course, he could have woken me up and I would have been happy to oblige but no way was he going to wake me up when he knew how exhuasted I was.


Overally, everything is going well. We will be taking a long weekend trip to see some of H's old college buddies at a State Park somewhere in Ohio. It should be nice. They are all nice people. Unfortunately, I won't be able to use the hot tub.

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OMG -- preggers! Congrats!

(nice way to announce it...slipping it in the middle of a post).



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Heartfelt congratulations and best wishes for a healthy child and a smooth pregnancy.

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