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I think that was very well said CeMar. I was thinking along the same lines...(what the hell is going on? )


It can't come quickly enough And now you've spent your life Waiting for this moment And when you finally saw it come It passed you by and left you so defeated. Scissor Sisters - 'It Can't Come Quickly Enough'
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CeMar... That was a great post!

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What is your level of porn usage?

Have you ever considered stopping that cold turkey and redirecting the sexual energy towards your wife to see if that helps?

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Holy Woo Woos, Cemar!

I do believe you've just described my wife as well. Her parents didn't divorce, but her father climbed into a bottle and never looked back. Her mom had other things to do besides emotionally support 5 children.

This wouldn't by any chance be documented somewhere, would it? I'd love to see such a "syndrome" published.

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Cemar,

Very good and sensitive post.

Photoguy,

I read your conflicting feelings loud and clear. I am sorry that the sexual arena is so difficult for you. You seem very distressed by your wife moving out. However, here is what I'm not sure of: Do you love your wife? Do you think she's pretty/attractive? Is she attractive to others? Do you respect her? Would you say that you have a good relationship otherwise.

In other words - why do you want to be with her? Do you have children together?



Have you ever sought any kind of couples counseling?

I am also interested in the porn question.

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NHTom,

The phrase "not wanting to want" is from Schnarch. I don't think it is anything new by him though.


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Cobra:

It was probably from him. I just remember that was the title of the chapter and I could see my wife all over that subject. The bad thing is that it takes a lot of profesional help to get over it, if that is even possible.

Something else that goes along with this is that my wife actually became "Mother" to her younger brothers and sisters and I wonder if she continues this until today, she sees herself as a MOTHERLY role, and the "lovers" role is completely out of her mindset, and worse yet, that she really PREFERS the motherly role to any real relationship with her husband.

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While my W was growing up at times she was refered to as "little mother." She has 3 younger sisters.

Mothers are in control. Lovers are...unguarded. When sharp criticism is never far away guess which one is safer.

Yup! How do you counter that?

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this is such a startling analysis. does michelle ever talk about this "mother vs. lover" affect in non-mothers?

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MY porn use is not that much. Every couple of weeks. When I'm stressed. maybe once a week if that. 5 or 10 minutes each time. I'm never on for hours or anything like that.
I have not tried that but have thought about it.

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