Actually, biblically speaking, the womens body belongs to the man and the mans body belongs to the women. We are to take care of our spouse and not ourselves.
Are you still out there, or did you ditch us? We pretty much did a hijack on you. I hope all the crossfire is helping in some sort of way.
Chrissy and NR:
We need to enjoy the forest and the trees. Number of times per week may be astronomical and yet not be rewarding if all that is happening is laying there spreading one's legs. If the LD wants to count every time he/she lets ML happen to him/her as filling the SO love tank, that is stinkin' thinkin'. Even HD people can see through that. If you're going to put forth the effort of spreading your legs, please be there as a person as well. Sex is 90% mental, 10% physical; you can't fake the mental part and expect it will move your partner or your relatiohship anywhere.
Sadfish, want to apologize for hijacking your thread. People always chime in with relavent posts, but I guess I did that too often here. Please do post again and let us know of any changes in your situation. Thanks, Andy
God is love, love is blind, Ray Charles is blind......so there.
CeMar, I think that is the woman's body belongs to the man, the man's body belongs to God. The woman is supposed to follow the man, the man is supposed to follow God. This concept only works in households lead by Godly men.
I don't mind the sun sometime
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips
And smell you in my clothes
Cinnamon and Sugar
And softly spoken lies
You never know just how you look
Through someone elses eyes
BHS-"Pepper"
I don't view that post as helpful...you are making an assumption as to someone's belief system by quoting the Bible, and while that may be your belief (and more power to you)...it is not everyone's POV.
I don't know how to copy...just ready your post/question about what I wrote that John Grey said.
What it means is that women are the ones who USUALLY know that the R is not good. That is needs work. Men are often clueless. They sit in their "cave" and they are happy. Come out for food and sex (Dr Laura) and if they get it smile, give a few tokens and go back into their cave.
Now that sounds awful! I am so sorry! John nor I meant it as a slam to men. He said it well in his book and I took it out of context! He just meant men are easier to figure out and please than woman that's all.
Women are usually the ones wanting to do R talk. Although your point is good. do women bring up S talk when their are problems in the S life? Alas...seems here...no they dont'.
Although if there is a problem in the S life, there is probably a problem in the R too and if they are talking about the R...ears up ...gotta fix that too.
When we were having enough sex..was I happy >>.NO! Why? I wanted things to be RIGHT between my H and I and the lack of S was a great indicator that things were not right!
Though I do not agree with the 90/10 percentage breakdown I think in truth it is more balanced between the two. I do get what you are saying. What I do not get is why HD men in paticular feel when a LD is trying they are assuming that the LD is just laying there. I don't really feel this is a fair assumption.
And I do agree it is time to turn the thread over to Sadfish as it is her thread.
Hi guys, I have been away for the last couple of days. I have an update for you. Saturday night H organised babysitting and took me out to a nice restaurant. We had a good time and the subject of ML never came up. The next morning H went fishing early and came home and organised the kids for breakfast while I stayed in bed. While he was gone I decided that our sex life was based on his past behaviours and he had done more than enough to prove that he was a changed man. I decided then and there to stop holding this against him and 'start fresh'. I asked him to come into the room and told him that he should put a video on for the kids and come back to bed. We ML and it was great! After we had a talk and I told him pretty much what I have told all of you. I'm not saying that things are totally fine, but we've made a good start.
I found myself today getting p***ed at him for something he organised without telling me but I realised and told myself not to get so mad at him (yet!), I will tell him how I feel about it and see what happens. Everything worked out well and I'm glad I didn't work myself up over nothing! Anyway, I guess we just have to wait and see what the next few days bring.
We ML and it was great! After we had a talk and I told him pretty much what I have told all of you. I'm not saying that things are totally fine, but we've made a good start. 
