While we're waiting to hear about Honeypot's baby, I have a question for the ladies, although the men are welcome to chime in, too. W and I are driving and see a billboard. On it is a picture of a big plasma screen TV. The words say, "Almost makes watching chick flicks bearable . . . almost." We all know what Ms. Hairdog thought about it. What do you think about it?
I will tell you that, in the past, I would have listened to W's explanation of why this advertisement was offensive, and I would have rallied behind her. This time, I didn't. I told her, "I understand why YOU think it's offensive, but I don't agree with you." I stuck to my guns, much to her frustration. More details to come.
Please chime in on this. What else have you got to do?
I don't think that advertisement was offensive. The equal for that billboard for me (for men of course) would have been "It almost makes watching hunting/fishing shows bearable....almost."
GEL: My W would say that your example is not equal at all, because men are in power and women are not; the ad demeans a type of movie directed toward women, which belittles them; and because it is likely that the advertising agency and the underlying company (Toshiba, I think), is run by men, and it's not "okay" for men to demean women.
No, I don't find that offensive at all. Not particularly funny either. Sometimes, I think feminists do more harm to the cause by being too serious about every little thing, kwim? Like PETA is to animal rights. Its just too much of a good thing.
Tell her that she needs to lighten up. No, wait, you would probably get clobbered for that
I went to see Titanic when it came out. The only redeeming aspect of that film was Billy Zane's bad guy. I think that Leo DiCaprio was completely miscast. The emotional manipulations were wrote. If I had three thumbs, I would give it 3 thumbs down.
Sleeping in Seattle was a chick flick that really rubbed me the wrong way. The very thought that a child would have an adult perspective on his father's love life is preposterous. Children in real life who are missing one of their parents (for whatever reason) do not want to further share their remaining parent with potential romantic partners. It's a Hollywood notion that parents who are embarking on a new romance are going to include the children. Romance takes even more parental time away from a child who is already suffering a loss of parental time.
I haven't given other chick flicks time here, because, generally, I avoid them.
I don't have a problem being manipulated by swelling music (or lack thereof) and sorrowful situations if the film warrants it (Schlindler's List , is such a movie). There are many other movies that moved me emotionally, but none of them "chick flicks".
I don't mind the sun sometime
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips
And smell you in my clothes
Cinnamon and Sugar
And softly spoken lies
You never know just how you look
Through someone elses eyes
BHS-"Pepper"
Ok, I'll bite LOL. I don't find that offensive. Its just a well known fact that different people like different kinds of films. I have enjoyed some kinds of "chick flicks" and at the same time have enjoyed lots of "guy flicks" too. I don't see what so bad about some movies being called "chick flicks" Men have their sports programs. People have a different outlook on things.
Annette who thinks mrs. hd should just chill out sometimes
from a marketing POV, it makes perfect sense. Men buy large screen TVs, and men don't particularly enjoy "chick flicks". Good ad. from a social responsibility POV: it's not that bad. It could have been worse if it said: "makes watching objectified, scantily clad women in compromising situations even more enjoyable" - ok, ok: "makes watching porn even more enjoyable".
Besides (insert my soap box), men have been getting the same demeaning treatment that women have in the past 20 years or so. Look at 90% of the sitcoms: men are buffoons who have no clue about anything (Al Bundy was the pioneer). Plenty of unrealistically buff models in commercials, "reality" shows, etc. How many commercials are there, depicting the husband as completely lost when it comes to taking care of the kids, dishes or laundry? but, a-ha, here comes the wife to save the day. Anyway, people need to get over their martyrdom. If we start to filter every little thing that may potentially be offensive to somebody, we will live in a sterile, boring, and quite depressing world.
Off the soap box. If the <insert overzealous minority group here> don't shut it, I will be forced to follow through with my threat and create the Masculinist Movement.
The differentiation song:
All I want to do
Is be more like me
And be less like you
Linkin Park
Well HD...I would probably (as a woman of course) have to look your W straight in the eye and tell her to....LIGHTEN UP! I get offended at things too...for example I really don't like the "HOOTER's" chain of restraunts. To me that happens to be demeaning...so I don't go there and I cringe everytime I see the billboards for it. The difference there, for me anyway, is that their sinage is blatantly demeaning.
I wouldn't have a problem with a restraunt like that however if there were equal opportunity....like maybe next door there was another restraunt called "DONG's" with really good looking men serving the food.
But that's just my take on it. I think if you look hard enough at many of the advertisements you could find something that would be offensive to someone. But I think she's missing the humor on that one...even if it is a feeble attempt at humor :-)
I'm offended by Hooters, too, and don't go there. I've suggested a restaurant called "Peckers" with a woodpecker as the logo, and...well, you get the point.
She would call you "unenlightened," in that you don't share her view on this. I call that "arrogant."
Why is mrs hd so opiniated on womens issues? I can see getting involved in somthing that you believe in, but she seems to take it to extremes sometimes. JMHO but being offended by a billboard is extreme.
