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if you did it now, IMO it would appear a desperate attempt to KEEP her yours........work out the issues and THEN ask her.


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I knew that was coming. Do not ask her. Despiration is setting in. It's a good thought, but it won't work.


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It is desperation, but I genuinely want to marry her. I don't know why I put that on hold for 12 years, maybe I was scared to "grow up". Help me see the positives, guys. She's still at home with me, although last night we decided not to sleep in the same bed anymore. She doesn't just want to end the relationship, which is a good thing. We both see the MC independently AND together...

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There's three right there.

Is she still talking to OM? Does she want to work on the R? She must if she's going to counseling...

Can she change jobs?


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Originally Posted By: jamespb75
Women also want passion, which is what my W wants and gets from OM. I can not show her that because we are not intimate yet. EN are more than listening, if she will tell you what her needs are then great. If not use this OM to your advantage and find them there.


What exactly do you mean by 'use this OM to your advantage and find them there?

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You know, as a woman who stayed faithful to her H for 20 years, I can honestly tell you I know that it was not for lack of opportunity. What tempted me? The openness, the laughter, the warmth that these guys had. Often they would want to play, to have fun, something my marriage with all the responsibilities of household chores and financial responsibility and children did not provide. Did I give in to temptation? No. Did I resent that my husband couldn't invite me to have fun or respond when I invited him? Yes. Did I want him to laugh and tease and look me in the eye and tell me he wanted to f..k me more than anything just like in the old days? Hell yes. Did he? No. Was he tempted by others? Yes. Are we separated? Yes. Does he blame himself or me? I'll let you guess but here is a clue. He left me for the EA.
In a nutshell I'd say get your gumption on. Take her dancing, laugh, dance with her in the rain, hold her hand and look her straight in the eye and tell her you want her more than anything, before she walks out the door.
Take it from one who took rejection too personally and never got the gumption to do the romantic thing.

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Originally Posted By: jamespb75
Women also want passion, which is what my W wants and gets from OM. I can not show her that because we are not intimate yet. EN are more than listening, if she will tell you what her needs are then great. If not use this OM to your advantage and find them there.


What exactly do you mean by 'use this OM to your advantage and find them there?


figure out what she got from that R and give that to her in you. -- no need for OM if you're providing for ALL of her needs.


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We have discussed my being uncomfortable with her working with him, and she changed her schedule so she wouldn't be working as many shifts with him WITHOUT my putting her up to it. She really likes everyone at her job, and it's the best one she's ever had, so I know she doesn't want to leave, and I'm not in a position to pressure her right now.

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Originally Posted By: start_today
We have discussed my being uncomfortable with her working with him, and she changed her schedule so she wouldn't be working as many shifts with him WITHOUT my putting her up to it. She really likes everyone at her job, and it's the best one she's ever had, so I know she doesn't want to leave, and I'm not in a position to pressure her right now.


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Should I ask her what he gave her that I didn't? I would assume it was conversation w/out fear of being judged or made feel inferior.

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