I think the name "Israel" came before the death of the prince's son who raped Dinah. The name came after Jacob had a struggle with an angel or a man (depending on where/what you're reading) on the night before Jacob met Esau (in adulthood). Dinah's rape and the circumcision murder came later.
Ok, I remember Dinah having sex with the young prince, but I don't remember it as a rape. In fact, in my mind's eye I recall that Dinah and the prince really liked each other. And I don't remember the circumcision/murder scene.
And as far as the name goes, I was going to go with something like calmjourney or soundjourney, but then Lil's post about Byron Katie came to mind and I started asking myself, Is it true? And then I got all neurotic so I went with NJ.
I remember one incident in my LD days where H once sexually wrestled me to the ground and I started to cry. I was such an idjit then.
I also find the ultra male top fantasy erotic, but I wouldn't want to live it. I think it would affect me psychologically after awhile. In a LTR, it asks to much of men, to deny the times they are feeling weak, sick, unsure, etc.
I find I am becoming more immune to my fantasy life. My quest is to make reality work. I have more compassion for the person my H is.
Please expound on the wrestling incident and why you where a idjit, ( I think it would help Chromo... not to mention assist me in my endeavors with poets, hehe.) and also about how it would affect your mental state after ahwile. I want to understand. There is something important there. I just cant put my finger on it.
Between this post and a couple of Mojo's its almost enough to put a warm fuzzy in this icebox where my heart used to be. Then I remember reality...
Dinah and the schemelikites? is genesis .... 30? cant remember...checking...34
quote lil "after Jacob wrestled with the angel, Jacob asked for a blessing, and the angel renamed him "Israel" which means "wrestles with God." yeppers. I concur.
Ive really been considering judaism. Despite the rituals. Whenever lil has a thread I want to ask her about how...There is just this pesky issue with my respect for the founder of christianity. now if I could find a good mix of the two... I think Ill call it blackfootyism....blackfootianity... hmm one sounds like a profanity and the other sounds like a canoodling technique.
Blackfoot, Just to clarify... I think that Jenny and I ( more than) make up for our lack of testosterone with our imaginations. I have more repression to overcome, so my thoughts are a bit darker/stronger than hers, but they are of the same lines. I was really indulging my fantasy side when I came on board here.
The HD men here go along with the play ( see MJ's thread about contracts and such), but notice how they don't stand around talking about the latest Playboy issue, or Anna Nicole Smith's cup size, or whatever it is that fills their minds ( actually it would be useful to know, in the same way it's useful for the men to know our ultra alpha male fantasies).
But it's all fantasy. I wouldn't want that. I want a guy who is in touch with his feminine side, who has vulnerability, who doesn't have to appear to be strong 24/7. I love that. I just don't want to get trapped into mothering it, though, lol.
MJ got caught in the mothering trap. Fills a need for her. I ran away from it. Could never compete with my MIL...she is a great cook,lol. But I ran too much.
In the end, it's about balance. Aristotle said, " Everything in moderation." That's health.
As far as the wrestling incident, I meant I was just not at a place to go ahead and enjoy it. Dork.
but notice how they don't stand around talking about the latest Playboy issue, or Anna Nicole Smith's cup size, Why discuss fantasy/non-reality, when reality is a challenge.
I am not into who won the Super Bowl that much. What I live everyday gives me more pleasure and more challenges.
LFL... You are sweet; you left out the " dork" when you quoted me. You nailed ( on MJ's thread) what I was trying to say regarding psychological effects of over-the-top alpha male behavior.
With the wrestling thing, my H nad I hadn't built up enough of a foundation for me to enjoy that kind of play. As you said somewhere,lol, the relationship has to support the interaction. I know this because when I was ready for that kind of thing, my H wasn't.
It's been said over and over that the key to improving the sex is improving the relationship. And it's true. Honeypot once coined the phrase compasionate PM, aka " Schnarch with a heart." Stay tough on message, give your love. NOP may have seemed overboard alpha male, but the turning point occurred when he took Mrs.NOP's concerns seriously. And he emphasizes this. He is not an extremist; IMO, extreme doesn't work. I bet Cobra will see more changes as he ditches some of the anger and softens.
LFL, I find myself agreeing to all your posts. And I am not trying to butter you up to get some M & M's ( except the green ones).
