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Regarding the estrogen thing. Interestingly, hormones have come up in my situation too. It turns out that my sister has low level endometrial cancer rather than low level cervical cancer which totally sucks for her because she has to get a hysterectomy. My mother also was recently diagnosed with hyperplasia (she was building up a uterine lining even though she's in her 60s!). Basically, what this points to is a tendency in the women in my family to have a lot of unopposed estrogen. The ratio of estrogen to progesterone is out of whack. In theory, this could explain my high sex drive. I don't have enough progesterone to break down all my estrogen so some of the estrogen is being converted to testosterone on a monthly basis. Sort of the opposite situation that you have leading to the same result.


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Ok, I started when I was 12. Bad math on my part. I am nearly 36 so that is 23.8 years. At any rate, my general shape has not changed much. I was always thin but not the type of thinness (bony runner's body) that alters your periods. Recently, I did a mini-diet--I do this throughout the holidays so that I don't gain weight--and instead of holding steady I lost a bunch of weight, prolly 10 lbs or so. It just flew off my body. Being a woman, I am not inclined to wonder about this..I'm just happy about it ok.
Still yet, I'm not skeletal. I am 5'9" and weigh about 135 lbs.
If only I would get on your cigarettes/booze diet, I'd really be lookin hot.

Activity? dang do you always have to bring this up.
Here is the sum total of my daily activity: Run around after kids, work on our house (which is actually varying levels, some days it's really heavy, others not), SIT while I homeschool, and then daily chores like laundry etc. Thank goodness our new home is a 2 story so that makes it necessary for me to climb stairs a zillion times per day.
However, I suspect that you were talking about actual elevated heart rate, heavy breathing type activities and that would really only apply, on a regular basis, to sex.

Lillie,
Getting pregnant doesn't occur to me as it concerns sex. Having been infertile all these years, I just don't connect the two, as ludicrous as that sounds! And, to be honest, if I got pg again it wouldn't be the end of the world to me. MrH would be more upset than I am, he's had about enough of being surrounded by estrogen and I'm SURE it would be another girl, lol.

Jenny,
Interesting about the hormones. You know, the only other time I experienced an LD period was when I was taking a 6 month dose of progesterone. It made me NUTS. I was emotional, shrill, it affected my eating and sleeping habits. The worst part, however, was that it made me sweat. I was hotter than hell all the time. I am normally cold blooded and hardly break a sweat even in the hottest months of the year so this *freaked* me out.

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Last night I made sure to pay lots of attention to H and we were having a great time together in bed when suddenly he stopped and said "Why do you think you're not horny anymore?"
I thought, dude what the heck is the matter with you? We are having a rollicking time here, what is the problem?
It seems that he's becoming obssessed with the idea of True Horniness vs. Acting Horny and I know that particular mindfcuk well.
I just deflected my azz off (see Cobra, it can come in handy at times) and the moment passed.

Anyway, GGB you are right. Merely keeping it in mind is doing a world of good towards keeping me genuinely feeling the love instead of trying to force it, etc. I am glad that MrH spoke up when he did and told me his honest thoughts. I know it's hard for him.

Corri!!!!
I realized last night, whilst engaged in some rather nice foreplay, that I don't know how to tease. I instinctively replied to your suggestion (it won't work) without giving it much thought...kindof putting the old MrPot in the suggested scenario. Then I got to thinking about it some more and wondered why I couldn't try it. So fast forward to last night and it hits me: I don't know how to tease!
So here I am having a healthy dose of humble pie, admitting to the world that I don't know how to tease. Obviously it was not part of my repertoire, lol.
So I need a play by play, if you don't mind. Give me some suggestions and keep in mind that MrH shies off VERY easily. I cannot play hard to get, he will simply stop the chase.

alrighty enough of this.
Time to go play with playdough.

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Interesting about the hormones. You know, the only other time I experienced an LD period was when I was taking a 6 month dose of progesterone. It made me NUTS. I was emotional, shrill, it affected my eating and sleeping habits. The worst part, however, was that it made me sweat. I was hotter than hell all the time. I am normally cold blooded and hardly break a sweat even in the hottest months of the year so this *freaked* me out.


Yeah, the doctor told my Mom that a course of progesterone would be helpful for her but it could possibly make her feel like she had PMS all the time. She decided that breakthrough bleeding in her 60s was better than PMS in her 60s-LOL. My married sister needed progesterone shots in order to break a cycle of miscarriages before her first child was born. Were you aware of the fact that women who have more testosterone actually tend to look more like the sexual "ideal" in our society? They have larger breasts and narrower hips than most women and they tend to be more horny but less fertile. Sort of a trick of nature.


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No fooling?!
Wow that describes my body right there. Big breasts, narrower hips, infertile. Although I'm real close to being fertile. I have only taken 3 single doses of fertility medicine and have 3 kids to show for it. Our OB said that we should be the poster kids for this particular drug (clomid) because we conceived so easily on it. Evidently I just need a slight little push to ovulate. I have my doubts about whether I've ever ovulated on my own, since we have never used any sort of bc at all.

Ok, if I'm forced to be a woman I guess I'll go along with it but if my hips get big and my breasts get small I'll really be tickered off. First the gray hair, then that?? How much can one woman take.

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Ok, if I'm forced to be a woman I guess I'll go along with it but if my hips get big and my breasts get small I'll really be tickered off. First the gray hair, then that?? How much can one woman take.


LOLOL. Well at least we've come up with a sure fire test for the guys. All they need to do to ensure themselves of a horny PMS-free wife is go around with a progesterone level test kit and look for the woman with the lowest levels.


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HP:

OH. MY. GOD.

You and I are in the fcking Twilight Zone.

Well... I will describe to you what I do with my bf when I can tell he wants me to initiate, and I don't really feel like it either, but someone must do something, as I am now all disciplined-like about sex. \:\)

He's usually lying on his back, so I scootch up to him, lay my body along his, put my head on his chest/shoulder, and just start slowly rubbing his chest, stomache, get very close to the groin, skip it, then move to his inner thighs... perhaps accidentally rubbing against his balls. I do this for a bit, breathing in his scent, while he goes stock still, seeing where I might be taking this.

Depending on his state of dress... but let's just say you are in bed, and he just has his underwear or pj bottoms on... my hand will come back up to his lower stomache, and I will run the tips of my fingers underneath the band, close 'to home,' but not really touch any critical areas.

I'll ask him to put his hands behind his head, you know, so his arms are bent, elbows out, and I'll kiss the inside of his arms (I LOVE his pipes, man. whew).

Now, if his genital area has not grown of its own accord by this point (or even if it has), I do what I call a penis massage. Still lying close to him with my head on his chest, I will take his penis in both my hands and begin to roll it firmly, but gently, between my hands, side to side and kind of up and down, too. Everything I do, I do slowly and deliberately, as sort of punishment to him for not 'taking' me in that yummy manly way of his.

At some point, I scramble on top of him and sit on his stomach, and kiss the very sensitive places of his. Lots of yummy kissing, and if he touches me anywhere, I take his arms and put them above his head and hold them down. Wiggling your groin area on him, to get nice and comfy-cosey, helps.

At this point, I really begin to warm to my work, so to speak, and the minx in me comes out, because it becomes my point and purpose to see just how turned on I can get him, just how close I can get him to coming, without letting him do a darn thing to me. I turn it into my own little game... and well, it involves throaty laughter and soft talk, stopping and then starting, etc.

Eventually, I start getting into it, because all that teasing is now really turning me on. My own pleasure in it begins to heighten, but the whole point is to get him in a steady state of arousal, and refuse to take it one step further. I begin to enjoy my own game.

Now... I may get on 'top' of him for a few... but then I get back off... lay down next to him again... take the playing back to a massage... my mouth and tongue usually enter into the pix... you know.

If I don't tell him what I'm doing, or if he hasn't asked me what I'm up to by this point, the teasing usually prompts him to a nice animal taking of me... depending on how far I've fanned the flames.

Cat and mouse, honey, cat and mouse.

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crashhh! That was the sound of my crockpot dropping to the ground! Corri instructing HP on sex? Li, pass over some of that xanax!

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You had me at "scootch."

Could you submit this post again? And again? And again?

Could you forward it to ms.hdog@hasnofrikkinclue.com ?

Whew.

If I still smoked, I'd be lightin' one up, baby.

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Corri,
GOTCHA.

Yes, yes, ok I see where you are going with this. You know, I never would have conjured up the word "teasing" with that scenario (on my own) but I can see that's what it is, totally.

I do a lot of that--minus the really fun parts such as jumping on top of him--because MrH has, in the past, expressed a dislike for foreplay. So the only way I could get him to play along was to not touch the goods. Once I did that, then he was on top of me and it was all over, kwis? (interesting side note: Now that MrPot has turned all whacky on me, he suddenly likes foreplay and wants to draw it out, which I of course do not object to lol)

Nodding...nodding.....

Ok, I get what you're saying. Just take it a step farther and without the Ulterior Motive. Just do it for fun. And to sorta punish him for not taking what he wants. I like it!

Thanks a million.

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Hmm, that explains everything, now don't it. MrsGGB has big hips (her bone structure is that way too...all the better for carrying those babies), and smaller breasts, and she tends easily toward that softer feminine body type. No wonder she's just not that into gettin' nailed!

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