For newcomers, the recap: My story: I'm 48, H 44, married 20 yrs. together 22, 3 kids S18 D14 S13. Backstory - night before our wedding old girlfriend seduces H. He spends next six months mooning over her and wondering if he made right choice. I know nothing until I find his journals six months into the marriage. Try to throw him out but he pleads. Eventually after I move to another city to continue my education he decides to recommit to marriage. We are happy, start family, life is good.
8 years ago I develop overactive thyroid, become spacy, loss of athletic capabilities, fatigue, gain 20 lbs.,etc. For various reasons pursue somewhat ineffective course of treatment until 3 years ago, disease flares up and am too fatigued and confused to continue working. Give up and take drugs for it (which have small risk of fatal disease). Numbers look normal but I never feel normal. After two years on drugs, make decision to kill off thyroid with radioactive iodine, become severely low thyroid after, takes 6 months to get thyroid replacement dose adjusted to proper level. Start feeling normal Nov. 2002.
H initiates MC 2 years ago. We go weekly but sessions seem focused on all his dissatisfactions with me and our mutual childhood abandonment issues (my father died, his mother left family in MLC). Things get worse.
Nov. 2002 - I'm finally starting to feel better. I find Michele's book. 2 days later H drops the bomb, ILYBINILWY. Spend November and December DBing madly. Because of improvement in thyroid condition am now able to work out and lose 20 lbs.H gradually warms up to me sexually, still no ILY's.
Dec. 29 - H wakes up early to "journal" then go surfing. Actually says ILY for first time as he leaves. Then I find his journal writings on the computer and discover: he started an affair one week after saying ILYBINILWY with a girl he had just met a couple weeks before. While we were on ski vacation before Christmas and having a great time together, he was still getting up and writing fantasies about happy second marriage with OW. H is planning separation. Kids find out, H comes home to tears and devastation all around. H tells me affair ended Thanksgiving weekend and OW moved out of town 2 weeks ago.
Dec. 30 - I announce to the board my intention to climb Mt. Whitney - to give me a goal to focus on outside the marriage and to celebrate my return to physical health.
January 2003 - H becomes very depressed after affair is discovered and seeks immediate psych visit - started on Prozac and individual counseling. Spends first three weeks of January very depressed - my concern for him overrides all else.
Last week in January, H still plans to move out Feb. 15, but starts to argue with me about child custody arrangements. I offer extremely generous visitation and buy myself a new bed because I don't want to sleep in old one with his memories when he's gone. Arrange for Feb 13th delivery.
Last weekend in January I go out of town on business trip with him for 2 days - seems a little better. H has insight with counselor about "longing", about how keeping one toe out the door in our marriage in case that "perfect" woman came along was a defense mechanism against the possibility of me abandoning him.
Next weekend - H actually feels happy! Is prozac kicking in or are insights from individual therapy kicking in? Unbeknownst to me, OW has been calling and emailing him throughout this past month. He is still drawn to the fantasy but starting to recognize her manipulative and self-centered side.
Second week of February - H informs apartment manager he is not moving in. Buys me red roses for Valentine's day and writes me a beautiful poem. Tells me ILY for Valentine's Day. We sleep together in my new bed. We go camping that weekend with kids and have a marvelous time.
Rest of Feb. - OW is still contacting H although he has asked her (not very forcefully) to stop. H finally tells me all this. Things between us are improving. He decides to write her a definitive "Don't contact me anymore" email but dawdles over it for over a week. I finally lose my patience just as he's coming to peace with the whole thing and letting go. We work it out. Go away on business trip together and ride hot air balloon over the desert.
March - I get my permits to climb Mt. Whitney. H is going to be my guide. We're both excited. I love him and he loves me. R is better than ever. He appreciates my strength and unconditional love when he was so confused. I know I wouldn't be here if not for Michele's books and the love and support of everyone here on the board.
June – we climb Mt. Whitney together! Our love is strong, although there are still issues to work through, but we are learning how to be more productive in how we deal with them.
Well -that's it. Unfortunately my original postings all got erased one day by accident, so I had to start using a different account, but I used to post as toughenoughforlove. I think most of February is in the Valentine’s Day – is it a massacre? thread.
Post Game Analysis What I did right: Act As IF - glass of wine, dancing in the kitchen to Tom Petty with beautiful meal prepared every night when H returned home - tried to stop reacting to his moods and just be in good mood myself.
Notes - kept index card with note in pocket - 180, act as if, do something different
Beginner's mind - let go of preconceived notions and tried to approach everything with a "why not?" attitude. This was also a 180 for me.
Validate, validate, validate - thank you Soup. Tried not to present my side but just validate what H was saying. Hardest thing I did but one of the most important.
Worked on myself - appearance, fitness, conscious living - at least other people were saying I was beautiful even when H wasn't yet! Didn't do it for H, but athletic companionship very important to him, my willingness to try new sports was something he really liked.
Loving detachment - got out of my defensive posture and let H's problems be HIS problems, not mine. Quit believing it was all about my flaws. Realized I could not control what he did, could only control my actions.
Act, don't react - tried to break cycle of reacting without conscious thinking first.
Emotional aikido - when I finally stopped fighting H on the separation is when he started to rethink it.
Sex - in this situation I refused to let our sex life die. May not work in every sitch but was important factor in ours.
Focused on baby steps.
WHAT I DID WRONG: Too much pursuing in the beginning. Fought the separation in the beginning - didn't respect H's need for space. Started to get into a little competitive space last week about the OW when I was getting impatient about the email; H really needs to see me as better than her and she is not worth my energy. Worried too much about things that never ended up happening - don't borrow trouble.
BOOKS THAT HELPED DR The Five Love Languages by Chapman A Year of Living Consciously by Gay Hendricks
ADVANTAGES I HAD Coincidental return to physical health at just the right time. H willing to see psych finally for his depression and start Prozac. H finally having insight into his own issues and able to see it wasn't about my imperfections. This board and its incredible support. Affair was already "theoretically" over when I discovered it. OW had moved out of town before I discovered A. H is basically a good guy whose needs weren't being met and had a crisis because of it. H's friends supported me and pushed H in right direction. I found Michele's book right before the bomb dropped. H lucked in to a pro-marriage individual counselor.
I mention these last things only so that those of you whose situations are not turning around as quickly will see that I had a lot of fortunate coincidences on my side. Patience and Discipline needs to be your motto.
Good luck to everyone!
Ellie
Postscript - Jan 2004 discover D13 has developed anorexia and bulimia. Applying all my DB skills to dealing with her illness.
PPS - September 2004 - D13 has started high school and is in recovery from her eating disorder, doing very well.
PPS - January 2005 - D continues well in recovery, despite a few bumps in the road. H and I continuing to do well.
PPPS - Nov 2005 - D stable, S18 off to college, H and I doing pretty well.
Okay, I'll confess - I chose NOT to get on the scale the day after Xmas, what with H's delicious lasagne dinner from the night before and the fabulous bread pudding we had for dessert.
BUT - I DID start my workouts on my new Transfirmer step yesterday (yes, the name is goofy, but those workout tapes from The Firm are absolutely killer). I can really feel it today. And I walked for 30 minutes on the treadmill today (didn't want to do more in case I got too sore to do the next Firm workout tomorrow).
And, overall, today's eating was much better - getting back on track after the holiday.
Here's to all of us and our resolutions for the New Year!
Did another Firm video workout yesterday. D15 tried it the day before and is actually excited about how much muscle soreness she has! I'm glad, because it has been a struggle motivating her to exercise, and her weight has been going up, but I don't want her to get back into her eating disorder.
Went out shopping with my girlfriend yesterday - she had some Xmas money to spend, their finances are really tight, she was thrilled when I showed her how to get more for her money at the discount stores. We got her 2 pairs of jeans and two shirts for less than what she was expecting to pay for one pair of jeans.
There is nothing better than being fit and healthy. Just the feeling of being able to overcome anything, the improvement of one's moods, and so much more.
Isn't the week after Christmas the best time for shopping, 'eh? I got a gift certificate for Chapters (similar to Barnes and Noble), and am so excited about checking out the books I want to buy.
Me:57 H:52 M:28 Got another lawyer last year and filed. D35,S/D twins28,D22 EA4/04 End? Who knows? "Life is like a mirror. Smile at it and it smiles back at you." — Peace Pilgrim
I had a few days of eating a little more - one day was more than planned, we went out to eat and I didn't plan to get dessert. But then they gave us a complimentary (and very yummy!) bread pudding. That was Christmas night, so it was fine to eat a little more.
Now we have birthday cake laying around the house, so I've been good and tried to just have a small piece each night (but I have to shift my other calories around, and I'm finally getting back to normal). My weight in 2 or 3 days jumped by 4 pounds, and hasn't yet returned to normal - which is weird, but I know it will by my keeping up my usual eating.
I didn't feel good at all eating so much that one day (or on the other days I ate a little more - but those weren't too bad overall). I can eat some junk, but I'd have skipped the Sprite at dinner for Christmas (I drink very little soda) if I knew there would be dessert coming!
A happy and healthy New Year! Especially the healthy part.
Dutifully weighed myself yesterday morning - although i forgot to do it until after breakfast - and it was a horrifying 173 lbs.! Now really, I know it's been the holidays and all, but i was still being pretty good about my eating (okay, except for a few pieces of fudge and some bread pudding ). So, I got out my measuring tape, and was reassured to see I have lost 1/2 inch in the waist and 1 1/2 inches in the thighs since I last measured in mid-November. That kept me from panicking, and I just picked up and went back on my diet. This morning, I thought I'd recheck it - and I weighed 168! Just shows you cannot be a slave to the scale.
Did the Firm exercise videos 3 times last week (MWF) and again yesterday. D15 could only manage once last week - it made her so sore - and did it again yesterday. They are tough! I wouldn't recommend them for anyone with bad knees, as they involve a lot of step work on a high (14 inch) step, but if you're tough enough, they're a great workout. Less annoying than a lot of other workout videos, too (I don't feel like smacking the instructor after the second viewing).
I have to take S19 to get his wisdom teeth out this morning, but expect more from me later about New Year's Resolutions.
I am sorry about your piano teachers daughter! I have lost a number of people in my life in the past couple of years - it's really made me realize that you never know how long someone will be here. I don't dwell on it, but I am acutely aware of it.
As far as weight - it was weird, the scale went up 4 pounds over just a few days at Christmas. It has gone down a couple since then, but slower than I expected. I am never panicky about this stuff anymore - I am back on my 1800 or so calories, and life is good and I keep myself as healthy as I can. Today I had my biopsy, so I have to take it easy (though while I'm uncomfortable, I'm itching to take a walk anyway!)
Oh - I tried on a bunch of shorts that I had in the closet, I'd not worn them since the summer I guess. I can't wear most of them anymore, too loose. I am going to wait as long as I can to buy any more bottom clothing, until I'm closer to where I expect to be.
I'm so sorry to bother you, but you're an MD aren't you? If I'm remembering wrong can you let me know...on my thread. But if so I've got a question regarding STDs [Uh OH ] on my thread in MLC forum.
If you have a chance would you stop by and see if you can answer my questions?