Quote: I went down to the model flying field and met a few guys I hadn't seen for ages. Flew my model plane and talked about planes and motorbikes for a couple of hours and came home totally refreshed. Now that the weather is nice I will go every weekend.
Wow, Dave, the planets really are aligned! I did virtually the same thing today. The weather was gorgeous, but not quite as *perfect* as I'd hoped it would be. I got in two flights, but also managed to get the equipment sorted out and adjustments made... the next session will be easier and more productive. Probably next weekend - it's a long weekend here (Victoria Day). Hope the weather holds!
Quote: I think I might suggest that we "Just do it" on Tuesdays as well as Fridays then a "No" doesn't mean a two week gap. I have nothing to lose by asking - what do you think guys? Should I go for it?
True, you have nothing to lose by asking, but if she doesn't like the idea (and she probably won't, initially), you need to have sorted out how you're going to handle it. Might be time for a "new agreement". My personal approach is just to initiate as often as I can (which so far isn't more than once per week - I'm hoping for tonight), instead of trying to arrange a "schedule". Trouble with a schedule is that once it's made it's non-negotiable, so if you miss one, you have to wait. The non-scheduled approach has the advantage that if you get shot down one night, there's nothing to stop you trying again the next night (unless your SO is not feeling well, as with allergies or something)...
A major breakthrough!!!! Last night (Sunday - not Friday!) I jumped into bed and said "Lets have some lovely sex" expecting a rebuff but none came so I caressed her a little and she responded favourably. Then D16 was heard coming up the stairs so I called her in for a chat (I normally try to keep her out because she and W will talk for ages). We all had a discussion about her boyfriend which was fun then D16 went out and closed the door. I got amorous again and found W to be very turned on so we ML for quite a long time and get this, D16 was still banging about in the bathroom and in her room so the risk of discovery was quite high. The best thing is that W seemed to be quite relaxed about it. SD - a very happy bunny this morning.
It's funny when I come back from a weekend of not reading posts, and then read one I want to respond to. I tell myself to wait and see what others have written, and then, usually, they have said everything (and more) that I wanted to say. That whole "I love you ... sometimes" deal; I wanted to yell at your W, and then at you for your thoughts about it. But someone already took you to task.
And then, look at how it paid off. I'm happy for you, Superdave.
Hairdog - laying on his back and thinking of England.
hardog and CeMar, My W qualifies as ND by every measure known to HD kind but I do believe she is changing. I could feel a distinct flicker of desire from her. My initiation was entirely playful and I knew it wouldn't progress because it was a little early and D16 was not in bed and she always calls in for a chat. W actually cut the chat short with D16 and after she had gone W was quite obviously still up for it. I have been reliving the events in my mind today and I'm quite elated. Don't give up hope you guys, anything is possible. SD
Thanks, SD. I will not give up hope. I think that patience, positive attitude, and love are going to be the ingredients to finally break the wall my W has built between us.
Hairdog - who had a great day with his DD yesterday, on her third birthday.
Happy birthday honeypot. You're so young and still making babies too... Pregnant women are so beautiful don't you think?
Anyhow back to Friday night. I'm really excited today because it could be the first time we will have ML twice in the same week since we were making babies (last time was Sunday which was deliciously spontaneous and I'm still over the moon about it). The only possible problem is that W has a bit of a cough. Mind you last time she didn't want to on Friday she told me on Thursday and as no such decree has been issued - were on for tonight - possibly even as you read this given the time difference! My life has improved so much since I joined this forum back in March. In particular I have dealt with my anger and seem to be completely free of the anger, resentment and disappointment I have felt for so long. Thanks to everyone. SD
I have to agree with him. My life has improved since I found this forum, too. I still haven't ML with W yet, but I think we're getting closer and closer to that possibility. The main thing, however, is that I am really beginning to understand some of the dynamics of our relationship better.
Thanks for the karma hairdog. You're such a great guy I can't believe she won't eventually melt.
From time to time I notice couples who obviously have got it right. In the pub last night was a middle aged couple sitting together who were clearly completely relaxed with each other. The woman had her arms around his arm which was resting in her lap. From time to time she kissed him or they spoke to each other. They were completely oblivious to the poeple milling around them. I thought to my self "That's what I've always yearned for" but realistically I think that both people have to be of the same relaxed personality to get that far. A couple of weeks ago I was standing in a cinema queue and another middle aged couple were also waiting. They were standing facing each other talking. Spontaneously the man (who was relatively tall) kissed his wife on the forhead and she then gently put her arms right round him and rested her head on his shoulder as if it really belonged there and they stood there for ages. I had not read "Hugging until relaxed" at that time or I would have seen even more significance in it. I remember thinking just how lucky in love some people are. SD
