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Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
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No - just a veiled way to have R talk.


M 44 H 46
M 20yrs T 25 yrs
S15 S12

ILYBINILWY 7/18/15
Move to MBR 9/8/15
Physical Separation 10/10/15
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Originally Posted By: Jb9140
This might sound like a stupid question, but here it goes. Wedding ring, she hasn't worn it since BD'd. Should I ask for it when she leaves?


No. It appears petty and she will use it against you in D proceedings, as part of your "unreasonable behavior."

Remember, anything you gifted to her remains her property. I made the dumb mistake of given my WW diamond earrings while I was being gaslighted after BD-day for Xmas. Kiss them goodbye!


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Spouse-WW, 48
Married for 19 years
Son, 12
BD #1 - November 1998 (EA 7 months after wedding)
BD #2 - November 2015 (same XBF EA)
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Any thoughts on what to tell kids about the separation? Ages 5 & 7.

I wa just thinking we would say mommy and daddy are going to live at separate places right now. And tell them that they will be spending time at both places.


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my kids are same age, we just told them we were having problems living together and mommy would be moving to a different house. they will still have all of their friends and things etc.. but also spend time at moms.

then w went on trying to get them excited about all new stuff. failed.

overall kids took the news ok.

when it finally happened s4 then now 5 flipped would not leave me.


M 37
W 34

T 12
M 8
D 7
S 4

Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
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Originally Posted By: Jb9140
Any thoughts on what to tell kids about the separation? Ages 5 & 7.

I wa just thinking we would say mommy and daddy are going to live at separate places right now. And tell them that they will be spending time at both places.


Those are tough ages, not sure what would be appropriate.
I told my 11 year old son the truth, what WW did. It made him sad that day but I think it has helped him since. He understands the issue and he knows what is really going on, instead of the manure that my WW wanted us to feed him.

When I was about the same age, my dad cheated on my mom. People lied to me for 6 months before telling me the truth. It was terrible to try to piece together facts from lies, so I knew I had to tell my son the truth.


Me-LBH, 48
Spouse-WW, 48
Married for 19 years
Son, 12
BD #1 - November 1998 (EA 7 months after wedding)
BD #2 - November 2015 (same XBF EA)
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Can some advise or give me there experience with exchanging kids during separation. There should only be two days we interact. Saturday and Sunday. If she invites me in to her new apartment should I go in? When she drops kids off at our home should I invite her in?


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1. Why would you invite her in?
2. If she invites you in, why should you decline?

Be cheerful, keep the witch guessing...

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I think you are giving way to much thought into those small things. Just do what feels ok to you at the time.
If going in to her place will be bad for you mentally then don't.

If you want to invite her in then do it but don't look needy and pursuing.

In the end. Don't focus on this stuff.


M 37
W 34

T 12
M 8
D 7
S 4

Need break 4/12/15
W no ring 7/7/15

Separate room 4/12/15
Separate living suggested 8/15
W moved out 11/1/15
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I've all of a sudden got this real intense anger building up in me. I'm trying my best to let it out slowly, and trying not to let it out in front of my kids or wife. Is this normal when someone is getting closer to a separation date? she's moving out April 1st. This is a horrible feeling that i don't like to have inside of me. it's starting to effect my work and the way I've been interacting with my colleagues.


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Spouse-WAW, 41
Married for 9 years
S, 7 S, 5
BD - November 20th 2015
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