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Sorry your night was down. But, you acted pretty well and handled ot with class. I hope you have a very merry Christmas!

Be well, and thanks for all your help!


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Thanks Ancaire, Grl and d, I appreciate you chiming in.

Basically I think she's nuts. But...not my circus, not my monkeys wink

I've got the boys here with my son's fiance and her son...games, movies, music, and food.

This year certain turned into s--t at some point but I'm determined to end it strong and start the next one with peace and thankfulness.

I hope both you and your kids' "holy days" are joyous!

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Thanks, tl2.

Your XW does seem like she's having some sort of MLC.

Christmas eve and day are rather meh this year for obvious reasons.

Hope yours will be better.


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I have written elsewhere that I recently found out my STBX-FIL has a serious heart condition that appeared on a scan several months ago but went undiagnosed until November.

Basically, if the wrong thing happened, he could die within minutes. Should be having surgery very soon.

I have been purposely keeping my distance from the ILs because I didn't want to make things awk for them; I wasn't sure if I could keep my composure (by crying) when seeing them; etc.

Hearing this, though, I immediately called to check on him and asked if I could come see them after Xmas when STBXW had already left. They were very interested and asked me to come over for breakfast and a visit.

I felt pretty strong going over there. I haven't seen them since September when we went on vacation together. I've had my act mostly together for the past couple of months regarding accepting the D, etc.

As soon as they hugged me I cried. Excused myself to the bathroom to regain my composure as I didn't want to burden them with the unexpected grief. As I've said elsewhere, I've grown very close to them over the years, and for the last many years have seen them as often as I can. I have spent more time with them than their other daughter to be sure, and they and I are very similar in our views (religion, politics, life, etc.).

Had a very nice visit though, about 3 hours beginning with breakfast. Kept any discussions off of the D and their daughter of course. Asked STBX-MIL to keep me updated on FILs condition and let me know if I could help with anything.

My parents live a couple miles away from them, so I was nearby anyway. My kids were at the ILs day after Xmas and saw my XW there briefly. Then they came back here and spent the rest of their time with us. It was surprisingly more difficult than I expected knowing the whole family was over there, however briefly, and I couldn't be.

That used to be my family too. The sense of loss (that I'd thought I'd put behind me) is back again, and huge right now.

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Hi tl2,
I think it's really really sweet that you care so much about your ex-ils. The fact that they are happy to see you after the D speaks plenty about the kind of person that you are, and that they are.

You really must miss them and they really must miss having you as a sil. But I suppose since your relationship is so amiable, you could still keep in touch with them.

Yes, it hurts to have family so close to you on special occasions yet not be with you.

I always thought Christmas with the X was boring until I realised that perhaps boring is not so bad after all.


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Sending hugs and prayers your way.


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New to your thread tl2, I'm sorry your in this situation. It's bad enough that we lose our spouse. The loss is much greater, we lose our extended family. I try to see my wife's side at every opportunity because I not sure if I will see them again. If your in laws are that close to your parents can you visit them from time to time?



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TL2....I'm sorry to hear about what you are going through. You are such a great and kind man. Even through all you go through you try to help others. For that I thank you.

I hope you can keep your relationship with your ex in laws going. It would be sad to let go of any healthy relationships.

Prayers for your FIL. Heart issues have touched my life.

I wish for you my new friend a wonderful and glorious 2016!

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Thank you everyone.

Grl, I love them. I think of them as my 'bonus parents'. They have treated me like a son for years, and continue to as best they can. It is both heartwarming and heartbreaking to be in this situation.

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Thanks for stopping by mutatio and Rain. That is definitely my intention. My parents actually have their house on the market and are moving upstate when it sells (back to our hometown), but the in-laws are between me and the hometown, so I hope to see them regularly.

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Updating after long absence...

Quick recap: D papers signed early Dec, final early Jan. Today is 9 months after BD (#3 !!!), 6 months after XW left for good, 3 months since I signed D papers, and 2 months since D was final.

I can still remember the pain of getting the first draft of the papers via email in October. I also remember how relatively unaffected I was by the time I received the final official copy of the papers from the court in the mail in mid-January. Opened the envelope, did a quick glance, tossed em on my desk where they still sit.

What I've learned ... so far wink

1. Tomorrow comes for us whether we want it to or not. I've learned to ask myself much more than I used to, What do I need to be doing and choosing right now so that I'm ready for whatever I need to be as the future comes at me: mentally, spiritually, emotionally, financially, etc.

2. The pain and despair and grief I felt during the early stages of this seemed unbearable at times, yet looking back I see that I bore it, occasionally alone, but most often with the help of counselors, friends, family, and just pushing forward in the moment when I could. Sometimes I just cried myself to sleep. That's ok too. Churchill said, When you're going through hell, keep going. You don't have to look good or even feel good heading for the finish line...you just want to cross it and start preparing for the next one. You'll eventually feel better if you keep moving forward. Just keep moving forward.

3. It doesn't always feel like we think it should or want it to. Sometimes when I felt the worst and weakest, looking back I see that it was simply how I felt. Maybe I was a little depressed; then again, maybe I was hypoglycemic. But overall I was doing what I needed to and didn't let my feelings of despair dissuade me. I just did it while feeling like total $hit. That's ok too. Life isn't fair but we have to adapt or die.

4. Detaching, which always seems like such a struggle, really seems like a moment by moment choice to me. The big picture and the future don't make sense to me when I'm in tremendous emotional pain. But choosing right this moment whether I want to stay in that painful room or just go find another one is a choice I can make. Sometimes I made it, sometimes I stayed in pain and obsessed and felt sorry for myself. Sometimes we just do that. But we don't have to.

5. At some point we all surrender to the reality of what's happening, even those of use who start by kicking and screaming and dragging our heels...takes some of us a lot longer to get there than others. I know it did me. Accepting what we cannot change can change us for the better if we simply accept it and learn from it and are willing to do things differently than we have in the past.

6. Detaching, GAL-ing, and all that other stuff is mainly about getting ourselves back and growing into our better selves, ready for a better life regardless of how the M goes. It's about releasing unhealthy attachments to our spouses and even our dreams while maintaining our commitment to our marriages and families while this process plays out.

It's pragmatic and it works, but only if we do it.

My M is over, my XW long gone. I've run into her a time or two...she doesn't even look like the same person, which might say even more about my own mental gymnastics undertaken over the years to cope, or maybe about how she is/lives now.

Don't know...don't really think about it. Not my circus; not my monkeys.

Looking back I've also seen that the stress of the last few years is mostly gone now. I was getting mysterious headaches which I no longer have and haven't since shortly after she left. It's nice to wake up finally and not immediately feel badly about something beyond my control anyway.

I'm still not exactly $hitting giggles, but I have been learning to make my space comfortable in this new and unexpected life, and have made new friends and both the boys (now 20 and 23) have drawn closer to me. S23 used to go a few weeks without getting in touch. He now calls me every other day about something and we get together once a week at least. It feels good to think that, despite all the spew my XW gave me about how they didn't care about the family and I was always dropping the ball, how when the $hit hit the fan with her, it was me they sought out and still seek out. I truly did drop the ball as a dad sometimes, in the past, years ago now, but I finally understand I'm not and was not the ogre she made me out to be. S23 essentially told me the same thing on his own one day shortly after she left.

Life is certainly a bit different, and feels odd at times, but still good. But it's still life, and there are still challenges and disappointments. Like they said in the 70s...just got to Keep On Truckin'.

It's a tough situation for us all and a tough part of our journey through life. But it is still only a part of the journey--albeit a big part--and the future is coming whether we want it to or not.

I really appreciate the support I've received here, and I wish everyone here nothing but peace and strength as we all continue moving through these changes.

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