Also, for most women they have to have an EA before PA. They won't have sex with you unless they feel emotionally attached to you. I'm sure you find the same thing with your wives too.
That would be why I think PA is worse than EA.
Me-LBH, 48 Spouse-WW, 48 Married for 19 years Son, 12 BD #1 - November 1998 (EA 7 months after wedding) BD #2 - November 2015 (same XBF EA) WW filed D February 2016 WW moved out April 2016
My H is definitely in PA, but he has told me repeatedly that it is also an EA. They are "in love" and he's "felt connected to her since the moment they met" at work 2 years ago. That it wasn't "just sex". The PA started in July. I wish it was just a PA I hate to say it. Knowing it was just lust would help me for some reason. I know that sounds completely crazy and stupid but it is how I feel.
M 44 H 46 M 20yrs T 25 yrs S15 S12
ILYBINILWY 7/18/15 Move to MBR 9/8/15 Physical Separation 10/10/15 Suspect A 8/2015 Confirm A 12/27/15 D filed by H 2/2/16
I think it's very easy for men to have sex with any woman, if he doesn't have a sense of boundary. I remember a survey where 99% of men said they would have an affair, i.e. sex with a woman other than his wife, if there are no consequences from that.
But the converse is not true. For most women there must be an emotional connection to get to that stage. The % of women who would have sex was much much lower. Would you agree, broke?
Me-LBH, 48 Spouse-WW, 48 Married for 19 years Son, 12 BD #1 - November 1998 (EA 7 months after wedding) BD #2 - November 2015 (same XBF EA) WW filed D February 2016 WW moved out April 2016
I agree completely with CWOL - I think woman have to have the emotional connection before it becomes a physical affair. But, I don't have experience here so it's just my opinion :-)
M 44 H 46 M 20yrs T 25 yrs S15 S12
ILYBINILWY 7/18/15 Move to MBR 9/8/15 Physical Separation 10/10/15 Suspect A 8/2015 Confirm A 12/27/15 D filed by H 2/2/16
Alright on to my new concern for today. I'm back in the house and I've talked to a lawyer. I haven't retained him yet (7500.00) because of the financial part. Has anyone experienced a spouse filling for divorce and order keeping you out of the house until divorce finalized. This is a major fear of mine. We've had some heated arguments, but never anything physical or breaking stuff etc.... I don't think my wife would lie under oath an accuse of abuse, but [censored] at this point i really don't know what to expect.
Me-LBH, 44 Spouse-WAW, 41 Married for 9 years S, 7 S, 5 BD - November 20th 2015
Alright on to my new concern for today. I'm back in the house and I've talked to a lawyer. I haven't retained him yet (7500.00) because of the financial part. Has anyone experienced a spouse filling for divorce and order keeping you out of the house until divorce finalized. This is a major fear of mine. We've had some heated arguments, but never anything physical or breaking stuff etc.... I don't think my wife would lie under oath an accuse of abuse, but [censored] at this point i really don't know what to expect.
Your fear is completely justified. You need to be very careful what you say, especially during heated arguments. When I first discovered my WW's secret divorce plot, I was very upset. My WW claimed I "threatened" her (I just said this is not going to make any of us happy, etc.)
I have a voice-activated recorder now in case we get into that situation again, so I can get the exact words if necessary. Unfortunately, as men, we are automatically assumed to be violent and aggressive, so it's always better to walk away than engage in these arguments.
In my state, the legal bar for getting a Restraining Order is very high, especially since I have no prior records. My attorney told me I have nothing to worry about. But I would be very careful if I were you, you might want to get that VAR and definitely try to stay away from these arguments. That is a tactic WW will use against their husbands to get them out of the house.
Me-LBH, 48 Spouse-WW, 48 Married for 19 years Son, 12 BD #1 - November 1998 (EA 7 months after wedding) BD #2 - November 2015 (same XBF EA) WW filed D February 2016 WW moved out April 2016
I'm in Florida. The lawyer I talked to basically said if any discussion starts to go sideways leave the house immediately for a few hours. Thanks for replying.
Me-LBH, 44 Spouse-WAW, 41 Married for 9 years S, 7 S, 5 BD - November 20th 2015