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Ok guys. Chime in. Everyone knows of my setbacks and especially my latest one.

Here is what I have noticed what has worked and what has been detrimental to my progress this last month or so:

What's worked:

The 180s of spending a lot of quality time with my children and being the best father I am capable of being.

Being helpful around my house when I am there without telling my W and having no expectations of praise or recognition.

Not engaging in any other type of talk except for pleasant small talk or discussions surrounding the children.

Leaving my W alone when it comes to pursuit: be it seeking reassurances or questions about her new found social life

What hasn't worked:
Begging.

Pursuing.

Seeking reassurance.

Asking any questions about what she is up to.

Snooping.

I think I need to not go dark but go dim for a few weeks and reassess. Continue the 180s that have been working. But let go of control. Don't contact her at all unless it is about children time. If she texts me don't answer right away unless it is an emergency. If she texts me about something other than the childrenand isn't an emergency don't even answer her back. Start going out with friends once a week instead of playing babysitter for her when she wants to go out.

Space space space

Thoughts?

Sounds like the DB recipe to me!

You can DO IT!


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My only other option is to just go home and say you win. Do whatever you want.

Which probably isn't very solution oriented.

She wants space. She wants no interaction. She wants to see action and not hear words.

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Originally Posted By: BEClem
Ok guys. Chime in. Everyone knows of my setbacks and especially my latest one.

Here is what I have noticed what has worked and what has been detrimental to my progress this last month or so:

What's worked:

The 180s of spending a lot of quality time with my children and being the best father I am capable of being.

Being helpful around my house when I am there without telling my W and having no expectations of praise or recognition.

Not engaging in any other type of talk except for pleasant small talk or discussions surrounding the children.

Leaving my W alone when it comes to pursuit: be it seeking reassurances or questions about her new found social life

What hasn't worked:
Begging.

Pursuing.

Seeking reassurance.

Asking any questions about what she is up to.

Snooping.

I think I need to not go dark but go dim for a few weeks and reassess. Continue the 180s that have been working. But let go of control. Don't contact her at all unless it is about children time. If she texts me don't answer right away unless it is an emergency. If she texts me about something other than the childrenand isn't an emergency don't even answer her back. Start going out with friends once a week instead of playing babysitter for her when she wants to go out.

Space space space

Thoughts?

Sounds like the DB recipe to me!

You can DO IT!


Then it's time to get to work.

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Hi B,

So have you taken a look at what the source of your fear is?

By this I mean, is it a fear of your being rejected?
Is it that you are afraid that you failed in your marriage?
Could it be that you are afraid any future relationship will not be as good as your current marriage?
Or perhaps a fear of the unknown?

Are you able to define what your fear is, and where it is coming from?


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"Trial" Divorce: 04/14 - 6/14
Separated: 06/2013- divorced 08/2016

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It's hard to say. I'm fearful of never knowing if we could have worked things out and been happier than ever.

I'm scared for my children and how it would effect them.

I'm scared if regrets.

It's a lot of things.

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It's also very scary and hurtful to see someone you love and have so much history with be so cold and cruel. And I mean cruel.

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Successful FaceTime with kids. Didn't speak to or acknowledge W at all.

Went to my house while they were out and took care of lawn because it needed to be mowed.

Heading to work.

Check in tonight smile

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Crying right now frown

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Crying right now frown

Fine. Do it alone where nobody can see it.


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M 16 yrs
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ILYBINILWY: 12/15/14
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Called my mother instead of her

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