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Mozza #2560416 04/23/15 10:56 PM
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Don't do it Kramer. No more fixing.

You want to fix in the hope she replicates.

Don't do it.

...Please.

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I will heed the advice of those who are smarter than I am in these matters, and not do anything for Mothers Day. I will feel guilty, but want to do what's best for my sitch.

Right now, neither one of us is communicating with the other, and we have no kids together. I am assuming that detachment in this case consists of ignoring and not initiating conversation.

If by some miracle she contacts me, I will respond in a detached, yet cordial, manner.


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Why do you feel guilty? It's Mothers' Day. You have no kids together, her kids are grown-ups who can prepare gifts, she left you, she has a new boyfriend and she doesn't want you to pursue. She does not want your gift, or involvement, and will not be pleased by it. It seems a very clear case to me. Is it really guilt that you're feeling or something else?


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Mozza #2560492 04/24/15 04:44 AM
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Perhaps guilt is the wrong word. I will feel sad. I was always thoughtful with gifts and always made an emotional connection. I'd like to think that she would be touched by my thoughtfulness, but the reality is that I have been replaced. That really saddens me.


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Yes, you have every reason to be sad (I'm going through the same thing), especially given how you would establish a connection with thoughtful gifts. Guilt implies that you're doing something wrong, which you're not. You're doing the right thing: the gift she wants from you is space and you're respecting it. The gift to yourself is pride and self-worth.


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Mozza #2562670 04/30/15 05:01 AM
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I just received a text from my wife. "Hi, how are you doing?"

This is the first I have heard anything for 2 weeks. Any thoughts on how to respond?


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Kramer,

Just be yourself....upbeat, light, breezy.

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I responded "Great! How about you?" She said "I'm sure you are", and then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions (legitimate) regarding our finances and bills. I gave her the information needed and that's that.


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Way to go Kramer.

I know it's very very hard.

Keep it up = upbeat and cordial. it's something i struggle with.

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Just heard from my lawyer that W has not responded and has not retained counsel yet. I guess we're in a holding pattern. I know that I have 60 days from date of my response to provide financial disclosures, but don't know what happens if she doesn't provide her financials. All I know is that I'm not going to hurry the process. I will protect myself, but honestly don't care if divorce process takes years.

I will continue to work on myself and continue detaching. I am not holding my breath, but am still hopeful that she has an epiphany.

Regardless of how it turns out, I will be a better person for my next relationship, whether that be with her or someone else.


Me M51
WW F46
T 17 yrs
M 16 yrs
9 children D29 D27 D26 S24 S24 S19 S19 niece18 S17
8 grandchildren
ILYBINILWY: 12/15/14
I discover PA 12/31/14
She files D: 1/9/15
She moves out 3/2/15
D papers served 3/18/15
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