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HeavyD #2554094 04/04/15 03:23 AM
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Deal!


Me M51
WW F46
T 17 yrs
M 16 yrs
9 children D29 D27 D26 S24 S24 S19 S19 niece18 S17
8 grandchildren
ILYBINILWY: 12/15/14
I discover PA 12/31/14
She files D: 1/9/15
She moves out 3/2/15
D papers served 3/18/15
Kramer #2554116 04/04/15 06:24 AM
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Heavy I think that is great advice.
I like to also reframe "moving on" and instead say "Moving Forward".
Don't get stuck and keep moving in a positive direction!


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Originally Posted By: Kramer
I am just so fed up, sad, and frustrated. She has completely written off my children and grandchildren, and has not spoken with them since affair was discovered

This just struck a chord with me. It hurts so badly to see them turn their back on your kids, right?

My ex did this when he moved to Russia to live with his OW. I asked if it did not bother him that he would never see the boys again, and he answered that they were "lost to him anyway, so why did it matter?" But he has returned, and has been attempting to reconnect with both of them and our grandkids too, to some extent.

So don't lose hope Kramer. It took my ex almost six years, but he has finally gotten to the part of the script where he reconnects with his children.


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Me 65, Ex 64
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MLC 11/07
BD 12/09
D 3/14
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I am thankful for the years and memories that we do have. Part of my frustration is that the kids are all grown now. This was supposed to be OUR time to travel and reconnect as a couple. Instead, she is now involved with somebody else, and raising his young children. At the same time that she ignores the grandchildren that love her dearly. It just breaks my heart.


Me M51
WW F46
T 17 yrs
M 16 yrs
9 children D29 D27 D26 S24 S24 S19 S19 niece18 S17
8 grandchildren
ILYBINILWY: 12/15/14
I discover PA 12/31/14
She files D: 1/9/15
She moves out 3/2/15
D papers served 3/18/15
Kramer #2554298 04/04/15 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kramer
I can not and will not be her friend, even though she has asked me to. Friends do not treat each other with deceit and lies.

i feel the same way. unfortunately we have 2 little kids in the middle


M: 6 T: 12
Kids: 2,4
BD: Jan 2015 S: Feb 2015
EA/PA confirmed: Feb2015/Mar2015
Kramer #2554299 04/04/15 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kramer

Today I feel sad, and angry. Mostly angry. Angry that she never even tried to fix things. Angry that she seems happy and I feel so alone. Angry that she wasn't strong enough to resist affair and fight for us. Angry that I will never be one of those older couples holding hands and celebrating 30 years of marriage. I feel cheated. I feel like a failure.

I know what I need to do. I know that I can only facilitate my own changes. I know that I will be better off...eventually.

I,m

I'm just upset.

every 2nd minute, hour, day - it is incredibly unfair what the LBS has to go through. and to make it worse my W keeps telling me how much stress she is going through, and it is all my fault. all the while posting happy snaps of herself and my kids playing. and i have to curb my anger? i have to make the effort to be friends? screw that. i had no concept of the enormity of this grief before. i have heard people talk about this cycling of anger, depression etc. but this is INSANE.


M: 6 T: 12
Kids: 2,4
BD: Jan 2015 S: Feb 2015
EA/PA confirmed: Feb2015/Mar2015
Pyrite #2554306 04/05/15 12:01 AM
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i have heard people talk about this cycling of anger, depression etc. but this is INSANE.


Over time it gets better. Especially as you gain detachment.

All the emotions are circular and every time around the circle takes a little while longer.


Me: 45 W43
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D mentioned Feb 2015, Wife served 3/24/2015. She moved out 4/15/2015.
Kramer #2554308 04/05/15 12:04 AM
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i can relate. just a week prior to BD, SHE invoked the hope in me that over the following 12 months "working on the M" is what we would do. I reacted with so much enthusiasm. Then BD. i couldn't understand and really was going crazy. 1 hr sleep per day, lost 7kg in 3 weeks. blood pressure blew up numerous health issues. then separation.

i sent her so many emails and texts. clarifying exactly my position as it had dwindled since BD from working together to just not saying D right now. in general no response. and then she told me to get a diary for this stuff and not bother her. i was pouring my heart out to her, and not only did she not care, it was annoying.

then i confirmed OM. FB-ish account that depicted a whole new life, new profile picture w/ OM. Maiden name. photos of kids and "my family" was her quote. This was a secret to EVERYONE except him and her. I exposed it, and got in even more trouble from her. Now she badmouths me like crazy. Her parents have retreated from my "side", to support their daughter who is telling them I emotionally abused her for 4 years. Which is a huge exaggeration. But, what else is she gonna do. sorry - venting

So WRT your question. I am taking the view that DBing is for my sake, not hers, nor the M. If M is retrievable in the future..... I doubt it, but I'll be in a better place, i hope


M: 6 T: 12
Kids: 2,4
BD: Jan 2015 S: Feb 2015
EA/PA confirmed: Feb2015/Mar2015
HeavyD #2554309 04/05/15 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: HeavyD
Affairs fizzle out pretty quickly. This sounds like it has happened all so fast and your wife is in it deep.

Why not drag it out, let your wife cool down? Give yourself the gift of time to let this play out. Once she gets out of th fantasy bubble, she may want to try counseling.


i am hoping this happens - but the reality i see is not this. affairs dont necessarily fizzle out quickly at all. i have 4 friends (couples) who met this way. either one or both was the WAS and now they have a great life together. some of them have old kids + new. in my W case, i can't see this being the case given circumstances of younger man, 24. temporary work VISA etc. BIG chance he is using her for that. she is an easy target in many respects.


M: 6 T: 12
Kids: 2,4
BD: Jan 2015 S: Feb 2015
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Pyrite #2554313 04/05/15 12:45 AM
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Pyrite,

I also blew the lid off of my wife's affair. Of course, she then tells me that there is no chance of reconciliation because I embarrassed her. She is now changing the timeline and telling everyone how controlling and emotionally neglectful I was, and how lucky she is to find someone who treats her right. WTF? You had an affair and left your family!!!

The ironic/sad thing is that people are now on her side, and I have been ostracized.


Me M51
WW F46
T 17 yrs
M 16 yrs
9 children D29 D27 D26 S24 S24 S19 S19 niece18 S17
8 grandchildren
ILYBINILWY: 12/15/14
I discover PA 12/31/14
She files D: 1/9/15
She moves out 3/2/15
D papers served 3/18/15
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