I think I would wait before bringing up the S. Let calmer heads prevail
Take a deep breath. Go to bed. Don't talk anymore this evening and cool down, reevaluate tomorrow. Don't make decisions based on emotion and make sure you are completely ready t to stand your ground on what you ask for
When you're truly done, you will know it ... and so will she.
She knows you're "100%."
I could tell you to "re-read everything I wrote you today" to learn how to flip the table. But unless you really ARE done with her sh*t, it's all just so much tactics.
I think she's self-sabotaging. Think "marital suicide-by-cop."
Thread the needle. Simultaneously stay classy, confident and calm, WHILE letting her go.
I'm telling you: you need to go full-on Gucci/RobX on her. "You know what? I hear you, and this isn't working for me anymore. You're right. I see it now."
I think you're like a guy who paid too much for a stock at this point. You have SO much invested here, not only in past marital history but now recently with all the HARD WORK you have done. I get it. The forgiveness, the patience. And you don't want to give up when you might be THIS CLOSE to a breakthrough.
You've got to trust the work you've put in here brother, and that some of it will STICK.
I'm not telling you to GIVE UP. I'm telling you to LET GO. Let go of the outcome. Trust God, and trust all the fine work you've done. If she wants the marriage, SHE is going to have to make that choice.
Razor I have no advice but wanted to offer my support and goodwill. However things turn out you've displayed amazing patience and tenacity. I hope those qualities serve you well no matter what the future holds.
Me42, H40 D12, S8, S7 A revealed: 7/13 Sep 4/14; Agreed to D 1/15
I'm going to sleep on it and say something tomorrow. What are your thoughts on S? Should I push for a controlled trial S ( no dating, wear rings) or just leave that part alone and not even bring it up?
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Ex Rzrback Me 43 Her 44 D11, D15 T21, M19 BD 9/9/2014 Piecing
Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands - Clint Eastwood
If you push for a S then I wouldn't expect the "controlled" part to be sustained by her. Once she feels she's free I'm not sure what would motivate her to abide by whatever rules you tried to arrange. I know in my case STBX agreed to rings, no dating, etc. and then sneakily broke them right away. It's not personal, but if she's so far gone that she screams at you like that and everything else, then what's to motivate her to keep another constraining commitment?
I'm not saying that to discourage you from letting go, as Starsky suggests, but to just make sure you aren't surprised if it plays out that way.
It svxx that these things are so messy.
Me42, H40 D12, S8, S7 A revealed: 7/13 Sep 4/14; Agreed to D 1/15