I'm glad your daughter was there and found the candle before too much damage was done. Please don't burn any more candles until your focus is back on track. Your home, pets and family could have gone up in flames and it does happen very quickly.
Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to. The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
I found Wonka's explanation on another poster's thread:
"From my own experience and in reading the threads here in the MLC forum, it seems to be that there are two distinct types of MLCers which fall on the two ends of the spectrum: kitty kitten vs. Jekyll/Hyde. To me, Jekyll/Hyde types are full of rage against many things and act out whatever "unresolved" issues in in their younger years in a way that sometimes scares the crap out of the LBS; whereas the kitty kitten MLCer seem to have a milder form of MLC in which the LBS can throw out "truth darts" without any blow backs or really out there gaslighting from the Jekyll/Hyde MLCer. This is not to say that these kitty kitten MLCers do NOT have any "unresolved" issues...they certainly did and needed the time & space to figure themselves out (i.e. rH's H come to mind as an example)."
Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to. The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
amb, not only with candles. take care with driving too. I know my mind is so swirling sometimes. I have had two occasions when driving where, thank God I had guardian angels.I was totally distracted!
M48 H50 M21 T26 S20 at college),S17,D15-cp, dev. delay- cogniv 5yrs old PA confirmed 7/2012 H separates 9/2012 H move home 2/13& 7/13 lasted 2weeks.ILYNILWY OW still in picture. h filed 10/13
Thanks Job. Thanks Wonka. Willbewell, remember I rolled my truck back this Summer?
So I saw another attorney today. Too much to write, MUST take a nap. Tonight daughter and I go to dance together! YAY!
We both need to have fun and forget the CRAPPOLA year.
Tomorrow, I'll journal and fill in. Still upset about the damn sampler my friend worked on for hours upon hours! House smells like a fireplace, and I need to call insurance to see if there is any chance of compensation.
Spoke with H. today too.
Formerly Workinprogress H :55 M :over 29 yrs. Together : 33 D : college D : adult BD and left : May 2013 Separated Experimenting/Replay
You need to check to see what your deductible is for your home owner's insurance.
Enjoy your evening of dance.
Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to. The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
Today I texted my H. to find out what our insurance deductible is. He kept asking questions via text and I pretty much told him that we had a fire, it was too much to cover in a text. My attitude was , if he really cares or wants to know he can darn well call me.
He did, it was a fine conversation and he was genuinely concerned. I let him know we were fine. We discussed our 401k and the IRA. I sent him the letter about the options, and he hadn't received it so I sent it again.
He sent a response back, telling me I had no idea about income v.s. outflow. That was why he got me the books. Well, at this point I really feel I had nothing to lose and I might as well just lay it all out there.
I expect nothing from my response, but it sure as Hell made me feel better to just get everything on the table. What he does or doesn't do with it , I really don't care. I am losing respect for someone who cannot behave as an adult. MLC or not, there are things I needed to say. I'm glad I did, and I'm not taking the blame for everything , he made some major boo boo's and assumptions. :
Today at 7:36 PM
" after I just had to throw away every winter weight suit, pants and sport jacket you put in storage. at retail it was over $ 10,000 in clothes. All destroyed by moths. "
Sorry moths got to the clothes, I don't know if it is the storage or the house though. For my woolens, even the ones in the closet got eaten too!
Income v.s. outflow I understand, that is why I was looking at other options for income and why I wanted to do what I spoke about this past Summer. Giving me books rather than sitting down like adults is, not helpful, it came across as blaming me and condescending, with a dash of insensitivity for the timing .
Paying for a divorce, is not going to make anything easier or is it going to solve any problems financially or within yourself. It will only make things worse, uglier, and cause more stress. The debt and finances are huge. It looks like you are getting garnished, and that back taxes are over 75,000.00 dollars? No?
There were mistakes made, financially and relationship-wise. You had needs that you wanted met and so did I, neither of us shared things. We both didn't want to hurt the other and resentments either built up or we came to a conclusion about the other that wasn't correct.
I made a choice to work through things , try to learn and tried to accept both of our frailties. I took our vows to heart. Commitment is easy when people are getting their needs met, and times are good. It is when it is " for worse, for poorer, and in sickness " that we are challenged. It tests the true metal of a person's character. Which response kicks in Fight or Flight.
As for not having a libido from me during times, well it can come from all this unbelievable stress. Just like when I was stressing for years on end over the kids, moving, not moving, job loss, schools etc etc. There are solutions and running from them does not solve a thing. Your drive has a lot to do with the enormous stress YOU are under. Low testosterone, and inner turmoil.
Marriage and relationships are challenging, and it takes strength to weather the bad times. There were MANY times I could have bolted, but that would not have solved a thing. I would not have found anymore happiness, for there would be a different problem down the road.
Gambling, drinking, screwing around, doing drugs, drinking , spending, all of these and more don't solve a thing. It is who we are down deep and learning to accept each other and grow through issues that can only make things better. It is looking at the mistakes our parents made, and not repeating them that can bring clarity. Too many assumptions have been made based on past behaviors, and not enough credit has been given to how individuals can change and grow. I have been working towards starting a brand new career. I wanted to share , learn , and grow.
I cannot compete with another woman, nor the hormones that are coursing through your body due to something new or exciting. I have chosen to deal in reality. We have a boat load of debt, I wanted to work with you to overcome it and prepare for our future. I do not want to throw away everything we have worked for. I want to do things as a team, and fight like Hell to beat this .
Whether you want to believe it or not, I do feel the financial pressure, and after looking at the past paperwork over the years, there were many things I was not told. I asked if I should get a job or go back to work many times over the years. The responses I got were: " ...wouldn't make a difference..." ..." it would cost more than I'd make..." " ...it would change the tax bracket...".
Also , decisions were made by you that you thought " would make me happy ". I was never unhappy nor did I ever expect you to make me happy. Happiness comes from inside ourselves. I've known that since before we ever met.
I even offered to drive a bus when you lost your job from xxx. I have wanted to help, but there was much that you hid from me from fear of " me not being able to handle it or stressing out."
It makes no difference now, for you have made decisions and now you want to do the same without input from me. I was trying to show that I can be creative, and possibly help. I feel as though anytime I try to help , I get shut down. I do have ideas yet it is as if you don't want to hear them or even give them a try.
I accept that you believe that there is only one way out. I think it is myopic and defeatist. There are far more expenses with two households and two people working separately. This is a choice you made, and I do not agree with it. I accept it, but do not support it.
I see other options, and I am willing to fight and work my ass off. I am not a quitter, nor am I afraid to delve into what needs to be done.
I believe there is still much you have "shielded me from or hidden " Now is the time for complete honesty. EVERYTHING, finances, sex, things you think I'll judge you on.
Just know I have ALWAYS accepted you for you. I have ALWAYS respected you and shared with you. I have grown tremendously these past months, and I'm continuing to grow.
If you don't want to repeat the same mistakes made, the same relational errors, NOW is the time to share, learn, and grow. For if you can't for WHATEVER reason, you will be doomed to be like your dad, my dad. Stuck in a state of unhappiness, discontent, and ignorance as to why.
I care for you, and our marriage. I care about our children, I hate the thought of rash decisions today impacting us and our kids for the rest of our lives. Feelings change, they are flighty, but real learning comes from pain, and perseverance.
I figure at this point I have nothing to lose. Either way the house is gone, our life as we knew it is gone. It is how we handle this, and if we grow through fighting for us and conquering our issues, or running from them and allowing them to conquer us.
I made my choice, I'm a fighter. I believe in us, I don't think we're through. I think you need help and you are afraid to let me help, and afraid that I'll not accept you for you. I think you don't believe I'll accept the choices you've made, that I'll hate you because you spent money on another woman, and that you have screwed around. I don't , because I know you have done these things and it still hasn't made you happy.
You are still seeking , trying to figure out who you are, and who you want to become. I didn't marry you for your money, car, status, or job. I wanted you. I didn't need you, I chose you. There is so much more but this is long enough. When you can face me, and sit down like a man I'm ready to fight. I'm ready to listen. I'm ready to work. You have to accept and love yourself. You are not who your parent's perceived you to be, nor your Aunts. You are you, you are human, a man. That was not only good enough for me, but who I thought was pretty awesome. Yeah, you aren't perfect, neither am I.
Just accept yourself and love yourself. We do.
A.
So I dumped, it may not be DB-ing. It may or may not fall on deaf ears. I needed this, I have been living under so much stress for so long. My body immune system is at it's most stressed, I've been fighting getting sick, my rib cage got a blow, I'm getting mouth ulcers...yadda yadda yadda.
I really don't care anymore. If he responds with the poor me, things haven't changed, I can't live with you or whatever...I really don't care. He has chosen to give up and I cannot respect nor support quitting.
He has a ton of growing to do, and I still do as well. I tired of allowing myself to get mired.
Formerly Workinprogress H :55 M :over 29 yrs. Together : 33 D : college D : adult BD and left : May 2013 Separated Experimenting/Replay
I think sometimes your body tells you things and you have to listen.
I know in my case, the stress of everything g made me super immune woman lol!
I think when you don't say what you need to say, your body turns against itself. I am a believer In The mind body connection for sure.
Sometimes you just have to put it out there and use your DB techniques when the reply comes floating back.
A few weeks ago, H blew off communication with me in a situation where he should have communicated. I called him on it and said very bluntly that whatever our relationship was, I was worth more than being stood up.
He said he was blind sided, never thought blah blah and needed time to think about what I said. Well he never apologized or got back or acknowledged it again, but I felt darn good about that letter.
Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.
Ambivalent, There comes a time to say what is on your mind and you had your say last evening. You laid it all out on the line and he's now aware that you are in the know of some of the bills, etc. I do hope that he will be truthful w/you, but I think he'll stretch the truth a bit and not be totally honest w/you. I hope that I am wrong.
As for the clothing being eaten by moths...where the clothes put in garment bags w/moth balls or cedar chips? If they weren't, moths will have a field day w/those types of clothes. I'm very sorry that so many clothes were destroyed by those little bugs because they can do a lot of damage in a short time...I always use the moth balls versus flakes and if I have the time to find the cedar chips, I prefer them because they smell so much better.
Time will tell as to whether your h responds to your text message. He may take a day or so to think it over before responding. I hope he's honest w/you and will work w/you on the financial stuff.
Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to. The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.