You are handling those other women with such poise and class! I couldn't do it! Good for you! I know your H sees this, too, and realizes how much better you are...with your dignity and way that you hold yourself!
Anyway, thanks for your post on my thread today about my sitch. When you have time, I responded to you over there.
You have such wonderful insights into men like our H's....I truly appreciate every time that you make time to give me some uplifting!
You have such wonderful insights into men like our H's....I truly appreciate every time that you make time to give me some uplifting!
I totally agree with Ang here rH. What you posted on Ang's thread was EXTREMELY inspirational to me. I love the insight you now have and share with your own sitch. In fact I copied it so I can reread it over and over. It's so nice to hear all the pain and anguish you went through is now on the sunnier side and so hopeful. Thank you for sharing that perspective.
Me:49 H:47 S: 16 T:27 M:25 My EA: 2001 His PA: 10/2007, 6/2013 Separated, but H still in house
Find your Shambala: a place of peace and happiness.
Say rH, when your H was in replay, did he used to ignore you when you were talking to him? My H drove me all over the county today looking at used cars (isn't that nice! ) and I forgot to STFU and tried to talk to him in the car a couple of times. But he ignored me. Did not even blink. But then a couple of seconds later started talking about something else. I don't know if he was deep in thought or what. But did your H do this sort of stuff? I don't WANT to STFU anymore. So am hoping that yours did this, and mine will stop doing it. Sigh.....
Linda
Me 65, Ex 64 M 38 y 2 adult S, 4 G-Kids MLC 11/07 BD 12/09 D 3/14 Dating nice guy 7/14 Engaged to nice guy 12/17
Oh my! I sure wish I could've seen the look on your face when you seen the title of sons book! I've always been a space freak and used to build and fly model rockets.
I was shocked, for sure! My H and I and when S20 was 4 years old got a special pass to see the space shuttle launch from quite close. Exhilarating experience!
Regarding the party girls: Wow... girls sure can be catty! I don't know how you all deal with that crap. I'm sure glad us guys don't operate that way. Kudos to you for remaining cool and confident and handling yourself so well.
Thanks FY. I really struggled at times. At one point, towards the end of the event, I sat on a couch and looked at my phone as if I had important messages. Then I journaled in my notes these girls are driving my batsh!t...but I'll be okay and similar. It helped me get through the awkwardness of being there.
I'm so happy to hear H kept his drinking in check AND talked to his buddies about his new resolve!
I liked this too!
Also that H is being so affectionate with you in public. How sweet it is to be loved by you. (was I right?)
Yes, you were right
There are many great JT songs.
agreed!
Originally Posted By: Ambivalent
I hope he eventually dumps them and forms new healthier relationships with you as a couple. His drinking habits and the people ( women ) seem to me as a bunch of losers. Yes that was harsh, but from the reading, and the age , it seems as if you two would be best served with some new acquaintances.
I totally agree! And it's not harsh. I told H days later that it did bother me how they acted. I said that I realized that is how they are choosing to act...not me.
We have been looking for some new friends...occasionally we stumble upon some. I think the problem is that my H needs to progress more through acceptance. He still is stuck on the drinking and I think that is b/c his self-confidence isn't strong enough.
For example, on FB, he often puts a pic of his drink and then the place where he is. It's still his identity, his blankie.
Until he grows up and doesn't need it that way, I don't think he will be confident enough to make the friends we need.
Good for you with the acting "as if" at these functions. Hopefully they will become fewer and further apart. Are there any new sports or activities you both could do with a couples meet-up group?
Thank you. And they are fewer and farther between. The MC wanted that too. So far....no interests from H in sports. We talked about country-western dancing lessons as a possibility. I could push that maybe this next month or two.
I also told him I wanted to have a small Christmas party with some of his friends. He said the other day, I just wouldn't know who to invite. So I said that maybe we could just invite one couple for a dinner party. He felt very comfortable with that, so maybe we will go with that.
You give me hope...hang in there. OOOO's
So glad!
Originally Posted By: labug
Hi, just dropped by to catch up a bit.
Great to hear from you, bug! I saw you were in piecing and couldn't be happier for you!
Sorry to hear that H's drinking is still a fly in the ointment or perhaps an even larger flying insect. Anxiety the day after drinking heavily isn't uncommon especially in people who suffer from anxiety-like those who feel they need alcohol to deal with their social anxiety. It's a dog that chases its tail.
True, true. So far this week, he has been controlling his intake. It's just certain social situations that set him off. I hope he continues to work on this.
I'm hopeful the 2 of you can work through this or you can work through it as need be.
Thanks so much.
Best of luck.
Originally Posted By: RosaLinda
Thanks for the update rH! I always love to read about any small challenges you still face, and how you "man" up to them (woman up to them?) and OVERCOME every time with your love, acceptance, poise and fabulous personality. Here's to hoping you never have to face any big challenges regarding your marriage ever again.
H said the same in MC. We will just continue to deal with the little things as the come up.
How funny about that astronaut book! Did anyone ask you why you looked so shocked?
No, but I physically felt my eyes widen!
As FY mentioned, women will always be catty. Especially women like these few, such as Cookout Girl, Sexy Lady, and that pretty one who has you blocked on FaceBook. The ones who, as your H described it, tried to "snag" him. Any woman who tries to snag a married man is the sort who would try to make the married man's spouse feel uncomfortable by insinuating they have secrets together.
This is so true. And I realized later that Cookout Girl knows that I knew about her provocative email. And there I am standing with her and my H!
Maybe she covered up her embarrassment by the little private joke?
I asked my H a coupla days later how his and her R was going. (Suggested by FY). H said that their R is "damaged" by the email incident. I asked him if he wished it hadn't happened and he said no, it's fine like the damage was probably a good thing but he still didn't like it.
I am sure you make THEM feel jealous and insecure by your beauty and poise. All the rest of H's friends accept you as his wife, and have befriended you on that basis. Just continue to ignore those POS and be your fabulous self rH. YOU know who H is going home with. And what will happen when you get there lol
You crack me up! And yes, this is a good thing to remember.
And how great that he is reining in his own drinking.
Last night he went out with a guy friend and had only two beers and watched a college football game at a sports bar. Funny, how your mind always expects the worst! But he is doing what he said he would do.
Boy that man has changed, and it gives all of us such hope for our own futures. Love you rH! Thanks for sticking with us here on MLC.
I feel like you are all friends that have stuck through thick and thin. It's a great place to be supported!
Originally Posted By: BklynMom
The merger of his two lives is great. I am impressed with the direction he is headed.
It hasn't been so long for him really! I need to be more patient and not expect overnight changes!
He shows how proud he is of you by taking you around this other woman and you not making a scene. You are the classy one they are not.
That's so sweet! I'm just a tomboy/country girl that has some pretty city clothes. But I don't think he would have brought me there if i would have even the least bit embarrassed him. I thought of some catty things to say back. So glad I didn't!
I just want to speak my .2 regarding the drinking and that is if someone has a problem, moderation does not solve the underlying problem it just covers it up.
I'm just now starting to really understand this. He drinks the way he does b/c he is not totally comfortable with who he is.
Being an alcoholic is not about drinking too much it is about why one drinks too much. He either needs program or therapy.
This is something I can't make him do. . And I do worry about him.
Best wishes and again I am so happy for the direction you guys are headed
Thanks for the good wishes, girl!
Originally Posted By: Angela R
I totally second what RosaLinda said!!
You are handling those other women with such poise and class! I couldn't do it! Good for you! I know your H sees this, too, and realizes how much better you are...with your dignity and way that you hold yourself!
Believe me, I tried to make him proud of me! I even tried to remember to stand tall with good posture, lol!
It's a different feeling when you get dressed up to look good for your man, and when you get dressed up to look good for him and people who will be eyeing you critically!
Anyway, thanks for your post on my thread today about my sitch. When you have time, I responded to you over there.
Thanks so much, I read everything. You've got a good handle on reality for the present and hope for the future!
You have such wonderful insights into men like our H's....I truly appreciate every time that you make time to give me some uplifting!
Awww.....I only have the insight with the one man...amazing how they are so much alike!
HUGS! ~Ang
Originally Posted By: Pudmuddle
I totally agree with Ang here rH. What you posted on Ang's thread was EXTREMELY inspirational to me.
So glad....
I love the insight you now have and share with your own sitch. In fact I copied it so I can reread it over and over. It's so nice to hear all the pain and anguish you went through is now on the sunnier side and so hopeful. Thank you for sharing that perspective.
Really the only reason I'm on the sunnier side is that my H was willing to work through his issues. I shudder sometimes to remember the stranger/alien he was during the darker days of replay! It's so much different now.
Thanks so much for all the comments everybody!
H and I are continuing to do well. I still have a few fears here and there. Last night when he went out to a sports bar with a guy-friend, I SO much wanted to ask him if Cookout Girl met them there. No reason to think she did, but that has happened in the past.
But....I remembered about respecting him and so I didn't ask. And in the morning H gave me more details. He never said that it was any more than him and the guy friend but I just have to trust. It's hard getting over these lingering doubts and distrusts.
But I do feel my next job, in working on our R, is to continue to move forward with my positive changes and also learning to respect him and appreciate him more.
I almost had this tendency to think I was "better" than him b/c he was the one who left and I didn't. I stayed home and kept it together. I was there for him when he came back weeping. So I had a feeling I was better than him.
I'm not. We are just different. And there are things about me I needed to change too! So...now I can work on this concept....I can respect him for the fact he provides, for who he is, for who he is becoming, and for the care and devotion he gives to me and the boys.
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In 2 1/2 weeks, his former drinking group of guys and gals are having a going-away party for one of them. He told me about it and said he wanted to go alone, if that's alright with you.
I said, of course!
But I really hate the idea. Those girls just hang on him and all. But you know, it would be so awkward for him to take me. All the rest are single with no BF's or GF's. So I understand.
And, plus, my H feels these people were there for him during a very bad time in his life. He looks at them as a support group. He enjoys the interaction with them and the attention from the girls. And it's not like I don't get plenty of attention from him, and of the right kind!
So...just another thing winding down from MLC. He said its a mini-reunion. I do need to be okay with it. He has been doing the right things in rconciliation. And he has not had something like this for a long time. I don't assume it will be late or anything. He said just a restaurant dinner, probably. I need to let it go. Just bad memories associated with that group for me. And I know the girls are clingy, catty, etc.
Me54/H47 '08 H is "done" March '12 H moved out Brink of D, December '12 2014 totally reconciled! ...... "I firmly believe in the...absolute possibility of marriage renewal." Jim Conway
H called me just now from work and we actually had meaningful communication, lol! He had been on FB looking at what my latest comments and likes were, and came across a news article that I had commented on, with loneliness as the subject.
He said he was reading the article and became "anxious" and couldn't finish it.
He also shared a video online that explored the thought of electronic communication making people feel more connected than they are.
So we talked about these things, and the issue of using the smartphone while you are in convo with other and things along those lines.
I know H has those feelings of loneliness and dissatisfaction with his life. But he doesn't often talk about them. Here he admits that his electronic usage has hindered not helped him. He said he is much funnier online than in person.
And he talked about someone he met recently at work that was older than him, smart, funny, wealthy, well-read and traveled. And you could tell H really admired the person.
I'm excited that this could be another step in his and my journey. It's obvious it's something he wants to work and "discover" who he really is inside. Not just an online persona.
Me54/H47 '08 H is "done" March '12 H moved out Brink of D, December '12 2014 totally reconciled! ...... "I firmly believe in the...absolute possibility of marriage renewal." Jim Conway
Good for you recognizing your "superiority" feelings, and realizing they need to go...it's tough, isn't it? I struggled with those, and I would put money on it that THAT is a factor in W's slowness in reconnecting, the fear that I will forever be "better" than her, in my own mind. So, I have to keep showing that I don't feel that way, or think that way.
One thing here :
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Being an alcoholic is not about drinking too much it is about why one drinks too much. He either needs program or therapy.
This is something I can't make him do. frown. And I do worry about him.
Just to let you know it is ENTIRELY possible for him to figure this ^^^ out himself. Some people can do it without a program, etc. You know H best.
You're a class act there, rH...H is one lucky man!
In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. - Albert Camus
Uncertainty is the very condition which impels people to unfold their powers.-Eric Fromm
Just to let you know it is ENTIRELY possible for him to figure this ^^^ out himself. Some people can do it without a program, etc. You know H best.
Yes, and the H I know will be able to figure it out on his own.
I guess you had hinted before in previous posts, T^2, about W being worried you would always have the upper hand emotionally with her. But, I know you can even it out, and obviously she trusts you, according to your most recent post!
Thank you also for your sweet compliments! They make a girl feel really good!
Originally Posted By: GALbaby
Second what T2 said. You are a class act sweet lady.
Too kind, girl, too kind! Thank you, though
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Just another brief, happy post before the weekend.
H & I didn't end up going to see fall foliage together last weekend b/c we took S14 hiking instead. So he wanted to go this weekend.
H: (home from work, in his comfortable chair, feet on the ottoman, eating homemade butter pecan ice cream and laptop in lap. He is playing an online car racing game with S14, who is in the next room.)
Me: H, what didju find for us for tomorrow night?
H: I didn't book anything. I just figured we will drive that way and stop wherever and whenever we want to.
His plan is to do some fall foliage hiking, then stay somewhere overnight. Short hike in the morning and then drive back home. Just the two of us.
I thought this very romantic! I'd much rather have this outing than flowers or candy any day! It's sorta like riding off into the sunset....
Me54/H47 '08 H is "done" March '12 H moved out Brink of D, December '12 2014 totally reconciled! ...... "I firmly believe in the...absolute possibility of marriage renewal." Jim Conway
Oh, and T^2, not that flowers are a bad thing, of course! Every girl loves flowers! Just sayin'
Me54/H47 '08 H is "done" March '12 H moved out Brink of D, December '12 2014 totally reconciled! ...... "I firmly believe in the...absolute possibility of marriage renewal." Jim Conway