Is it just me or is this recent convo between you and W some kind of dejavu?
As I recall she did all this not that long ago – threatening, punitive, name calling and so on. Afterwards she went in the opposite direction. If so she will properly come at you again!
Yep a very similar conversation on the 5th July. It wouldn't surprise if the pattern repeats itself. Her talk of Christmas makes me think of her, OM and the kids on xmas vacation and that is hard but I'm starting to accept it as part of my life (or not as the case may be).
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
You have properly written this somewhere but even though I have read all your threads I don’t remember: When will S4 start preschool? (5y in England as I recall but not sure) She moved 1½ hour drive away and most of the kids’ activities will be in her area?
S4 starts school next September. I have no idea what S4 will be signed up for as he is autistic. At some point I may end up moving much nearer to W's town but now isn't the time, I have way too much going on, the house isn't even close to selling and when I remortgage it won't be worth selling.
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
I think the first thing you have to do is sort out your own wishes! How do you think a schedule for the kids should be over a year? Hollidays, Christmas, new-year, Easter, weekends, sports, friends – you will have to take it all into consideration and make a doable and fair schedule. Post it here, get comments and then meet up with W and talk about it. If this doesn’t work the two of you will need assistance
I don't know if she is really wanting to plan the next few months or she is simply pushing me. She spends a fair bit of time announcing to me that she needs to plan it all when it feels more like a reason to start something.
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
Originally Posted By: T1000
When she said "Oh my F*ckin g*d" I should have left the conversation.
Or even earlier! You will do this next time. Perhaps you could make it a rule that when she start swearing, talking nasty or saying subjective unpleasant things you stop her. I still believe convos like this should not be texted!
I agree about when to step away. I have mentioned in the past that when we have something to discuss if it can wait until a better time and place we should do that. She said she has to deal with it in the moment. All I can do is pull back and not join in.
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
I would start working on the schedule and then leave it up to her to initiate communication for now.
I have only contacted her about Skyping the kids (which we planned last night but never happened) and similar things.
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
And the one more thing:
Originally Posted By: T1000
I don't know.
This one also makes me recall discussions in your thread about you being manipulative, indecisive or something like that – I don’t recall the exact words but you properly do. She will get pi$$ed every time you do this so instead consider going with: I will look into that and get back to you in a few days. I will need to sort out work first and then I will….
It was about me beating around the bush and not giving an answer even though I could, so I could back out at a later date. I have been quite careful to not repeat this pattern. Me saying no to having the kids on the weekend she wanted off was me not beating around the bush. Me saying "I don't know" was the case and was a bit short on info but I still didn't know.
Originally Posted By: Fartiltre
Tough one, T – I think the job you have done with the kids is tremendous. Few fathers do that much and you should feel proud, so in short I also think you are an awesome farther.
All the best
F
Thanks F, it hurts when W says these things. I have had quite a few people, even both IC and MC say that what I have done by having the kids every weekend most fathers wouldn't do. I try not to let it effect me.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14
You better get schedules and money legalized ASAP.
I don't know how it is over there but a marriage under 10 years over where, no alimony is paid
Your W will most likely need to get a job. Then she can quit bitching because she will get the break she needs.
Please, get this legalized fast. Sorry your going through this.
Thanks GM,
My only financial responsibility is towards the kids, either an agreed amount or through the CSA. W thinks she isn't getting enough off me. If she went with the CSA she would get slightly less She is entitled to 1/2 the equity in the house. The L I have seen thinks I should be able to sell house, pay off all debts and then split whats left. Right now that would come to less than zero.
She said only weeks ago that she loves being a full time M and that the kids should be able to have a full time M. I doubt think she knows what she wants realistically or it just changes with her mood. I can't see her getting a job, right now she does OK. Most weekends off, Tuesday and Wednesday morning both kids are in nursery together. Monday one is and Thursday the other is. It's not the paradise she dreamed of but it's better than most single mothers have.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14
I was working it out today how much % wise she has the kids. She has them 60% of the time, I have them 30% and nursery has them 10%. Plus I work a 46+ hours a week job and I do all the driving. She needs to get real.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14
You could have stopped that text conversation after her first sentence by saying some thing like, Let me think about that, I'll get back to you when I have an answer.
I think you both like the drama.
Me 57/H 58 M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13
Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do. I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering. Caroline Myss
I don't like the drama however I do want to stand up for myself if I feel the need.
I could have said that. I believe she would have baulked at the none answer and just planned her life anyway.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14
And the mindreading is how you end up in those situations, always trying to outsmart each other. did the conversation get any further in a real way by you staying in it?
Let it go, T.
What does standing up for yourself mean to you?
Me 57/H 58 M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13
Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do. I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering. Caroline Myss
I can't see the middle ground. She wants something and it's not job to do that for her anymore. She baulks and attacks me.
It went down hill by staying in the conversation. I find it hard to let it go when I'm called out on something completely untrue. Looking back whatever she thinks or does not think but attacks me with anyway, I'm not going change that by talking whether I'm right or not. Even when I correct her with substantial proof she moves onto the next thing anyway.
If she sends me anything and my first thought is "wtf is she smoking" it's most likely time to end the convo.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14
Here's the thing, she thinks she's just as right as you think you are. You can't change her mind, just as she can't change yours, so don't even go there.
Me 57/H 58 M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13
Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do. I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering. Caroline Myss
It went down hill by staying in the conversation. I find it hard to let it go when I'm called out on something completely untrue.
Yup, I know that feeling. Since BD I've learned to do a 180 on that. When it comes down to it, it's an ego thing. We want to be RIGHT. There's a saying I learned here- "do you want to be right or do you want to be happily married?" I like to apply it to all my relationships- "do you want to be right or do you want to have great relationships?" So whether it's my kids, coworkers, clients, my W, or whoever; when someone is spewing and I feel my blood pressure rising and that urge to "correct" them starts kicking in I just remember that phrase. It's amazing how that one little tool helps me to calm down and let it go, and yes it's true that when you can let go of that your relationships with everyone run a whole lot smoother!
Nothing from W after I ignored her last text last night.
Tonight at 10pm a text pic of S4 (a collection of pics), 2 of the pics of him with his birthday cake (the one W couldn't be bothered to do when I was there) and it says "Growing up Fast"
Is she sharing a picture of our beautiful boy with me or is she saying "look your missing out". I have no idea.
I don't want to respond and really I don't have to because it's not a question. I wish she would leave me alone to get on with it.
M36 W31 S4 S2 T5 M4 BD Jan12 S July12 Recon Sep12-Nov12 ILBINILWY Jan13 OM x 2 in 2013 W wants R July 13 I start D. Jan 14. Meet GF Nov 13 Have I changed enough? Jul 14