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working 3rd is depressing. I had a thought I'd like to share:
I've noticed since W dropped the bomb on me almost two months ago. She still texted "love W" and said I still love you at first, now it's a crime to her if I slip and start a question about the family with" Hun, how did S12 do in the baseball game this afternoon" she stabs back " What did you call me!"

Why such a dramatic change?
Does the W resent me trying to save the M and she already made up her mind?
I sure was a nut case right after the bomb.

I'm going nuts......then when I get home I see her cuddled on the couch with either of the B's and think to my self they never do that with me. I wonder if the B's love me also. I try my hardest to show them I still love them, but I think maybe it's too late, it's been so long since I've tried being a loving dad.
S7 has really enjoyed all we've done lately and S12 seams more intrested in his best friends than me. I feel neither would choose me over the W.

Your boys will always be yours. You are their father for life and will never be replaced unless you walk away from them.

Raising a child is hard work. Keep being the best father you can be and the bond will grow. Your boys love you and will always love whether they show it with outward affection or not. This isn't about choosing sides.

Ever watch football on TV? The dad signs his son up for football. Teaches him to throw and catch in the backyard. Takes him to games and supports him all the way. The son makes it to the NFL and when the camera is on him, he says "Hi Mom!".

Raising a child isn't about keeping score or who loves who more. Don't make your child choose. They need to know that both parents love them and will always be there for them, no matter what choices they make in life.

LostIn507,
Wow! Thanks I really needed that. I'm debating a job opportunity that would put me a few hours away and visitation would be tough.

Yesterday with the pastor at the church we both met and where to talk about how to talk WI S7 and S12. But first he asked W if she would give herself to god and repent. W said no.

That was about it. The pastor tried all he could and didn't talk about anything the W wanted to talk about. W was PO'd.

Who cares? It's about time you and everyone else stopped pussyfooting around your W. Take back your life. Seriously start thinking about getting your W out or at least getting somewhere else to live and shared custody.

W really p'd me off a little bit ago. She arranged the two boys to be with MIL on fathers day while I was sleeping.

She claimed to have forgotten.

How often do you watch the kids? It's time you spent more time with them alone. Like I said, she's running everything.

MrBond,
You are right again.
For the last three years since I've been on 3rd shift she has taken control of the family. I've made great changes earlier but the W has become more difficult to be around in the same house. So lately I've tried to remove myself from being around her in the evenings by staying out in the workshop before going to work. But that has also put a little distance between me and the boys also.