Well, the MC said today (via e-mail) that it was good that I confronted W and asked her about talking about us. Her entire statement was "good job Joe. I know its not easy to bring up, and yes I think its a good thing and being respectful when she says she is not ready.

Next time you try, I would ask her about a firm date.
Say ok now is not good for you. When will be a good time.
If she has no answer, then tell her that you will need the conversation to take place by X date so she has plenty of notice."

Man, if that doesn't sound scary I don't know what does. Anyway, I guess my 180 for the day is that I have not called to check on her and see how she is doing today. She had a headache when I dropped her off at work this morning. I hate this. I hate advice that says "go out and have fun and don't pick up your phone when she calls." Really?? I'm not saying its the wrong advice I'm just saying that I'm not that kind of person. That's why it's been so hard to do 180's. I care for her and want to be there for her, but in the back of my mind (slowly coming to the front) is the realization that it's not helping the sitch by doing the same things over and over again. This is hard for sure.


good luck!


M: 48 (2nd marriage)
W: 47 (1st marriage)
T: 22
M: 21
D (M, 1st Marriage: 26)
D (M, 1st Marriage: 24)
S: 18
EA: 31 Dec 2004
ILYBINILWY: 31 Dec 2004
In all things give thanks to God; I thank you God.