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Originally Posted By: Busting Mode
Now here's an immediate and practical question.

I need to tell my wife that I have rescheduled our DB session for a time when I think she might be available.

Right now our coach is only available on Mondays.

In my last email to her, when I upset her with my comments about me starting to look for someone else, in the very same breath that as I asked her if she could keep our 5 pm appointment, she responded very angrily.

The message I am thinking of sending to her soon is:

"I was able to reschedule our counseling appointment on Monday.
Instead of 5 pm, it is now at 6 pm. As I have already spoken to the counselor by myself, she seemed to think it would be better if you were also able to speak to her alone.


Please let me know if you are able to call her at 6pm on Monday, and if you would rather speak to her by yourself or have me on the phone with you."


What do you think?



An immediate and practical answer ?

Let me get this straight....

She is PUSHING for a divorce....

And you are going to contact her about a session with a DB coach ?

In hopes of what exactly ?

That the session is gonna be some magic pill that is going to change her mind ?

She knows that the session is Monday...right ?

She knows what SHE has to do to be part of that.....right?

What is pushing her into it, possibly going to do ?

Except show her , that YOUR way is the only way right now....



Sorry dude...that is as practical as I can get about that...

Use that time with the coach for YOU....

An Army doesn't send an enemy it's attack plan anyway...

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But she already said she was willing to attend.

How can she attend if she doesn't know the time of the appointment?

Shouldn't I at least let her know it is available?


I am being the possibility of:

1) Integrity
2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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Right now she doesn't even know she has the option of being a part of it because she thinks it was scheduled for a time when she cant make it.


I am being the possibility of:

1) Integrity
2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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I know she had said she wanted to attend but perhaps now she has changed her mind. I know that you have left this an option for her to participate or not.

What you have to remember what works for you may not work for her. In other words, I am a huge fan of therapy and my STXH is not. He would NEVER attend a session of any kind. Does that mean it's wrong? No. It just means that he prefers to resolve his own stuff in a different way. He doesn't have to do it MY way. And that was part of my problem; my way or the highway.

You have given yourself a great gift my being able to afford a DB session or set of sessions. Use them to your full advantage for YOU. You can bring a horse to the water, but you can't make him drink.


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I know I know I know!

I'm just confused because I also know she wanted to attend!

She gave me three days to choose from.

None of those dates were available so I chose a date when I thought that she could make it.

I only missed her window by half and hour and am fairly certain that if she knows I have rescheduled she would still want to be on the call.

I'm grateful for your feedback, like I said I am just feeling quite confused about letting her know the opportunity is still available to her.

I want to believe that she will contact me when she is ready
I want to wait for that
I don't want to re-initiate
I hear what you both are saying...

and still I want to tell her!!!

God please help me see this clearly!


I am being the possibility of:

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2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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Maybe...



If you are still interested in the session we spoke of. Let me know , and I will provide you the information to call and schedule a time that works best for you.



Dunno man.

I would still use it for me.

If she was that agreeable, she would be contacting you....

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Once again, Here is that last message I (unfortunately) sent to her yesterday morning:


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I'm sorry I didn't hear you are working next monday from 4:30 to 5:30 pm
and I never got the schedule you said you were going to send me.

I understand you are feeling frustrated. I am so tired of all of this as well.

You must understand that for me signing those papers is an irrevocable decision.

The moment I sign them you and I will be done forever and I will immediately start looking for someone else to share my life with.

I'm not going to apologize for first doing everything I can to be absolutely certain of my decision.

I told you the counselor was only available on Mondays. Is there another time this Monday that works better for you?

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And here was her response that came back two hours later:

Well start looking then!

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I am thinking...maybe...barely...almost thinking...
That I have already given her enough (rope to hang herself?)


I am thinking barely remembering believing...
Sometimes we have to go slow to go fast.


I am thinking unless I hear from her before the appointment, I will just do another one myself.

Not absolutely certain yet...
But maybe I am getting there.


I am being the possibility of:

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2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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Have not yet decided what new beliefs and references I require, but here are some of the old ones that have been standing in my way:

It's too hard.
It's not worth it.
I can't do it.
It will never work.

I'm not good enough as I am.
I don't deserve it.

I don't feel like it.
It's too much trouble.
He/she/they will get upset no matter what I do.

Nobody can understand.
Nobody is there for me.

There are no guarantees.


While some may argue that some of those are perfectly healthy and rational beliefs, I can see where they are having a negative impact in every aspect of my life.

Not only in my marriage, but in all my relationships, in my finances, in my health, in my spirituality...

All across the board those unhealthy beliefs have been keeping me disempowered and feeling insecure.


I am being the possibility of:

1) Integrity
2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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Collapsing old beliefs...

It's too hard. Compared to what?
It's not worth it. What about doing it is worth it?
I can't do it. All the more reason to get it done
It will never work. Unless I am certain it will work

I'm not good enough as I am.Ridiculous
I don't deserve it. What am I focused on?

I don't feel like it. So what?
It's too much trouble. Compared to what?
He/she/they will get upset no matter what I do. What would that mean?

Nobody can understand. As long as I don't take a stand.
Nobody is there for me. Nobody?

There are no guarantees. Death is guaranteed.


What is stupid or ridiculous about this/these beliefs is that first of all they simply are not true. They provide me with reasons and excuses for playing small and feeling like a victim, they only serve to help me avoid my response-abilities and being a mindless, purposeless fool is not what I'm about.

These elephant-sh*t beliefs are just the remnants of the tired old fearful elephant that had been cramping up my living room because I never had the courage to stand up and shoo him away for good.

And the truth is I finally DID stand up to my elephant step father. I took him down, I took him out, and now that insecure son of a bit*h is dead and buried and can never yell at me or make me feel small again.

And now I've confronted my mom about it. too. And I've told her in no uncertain terms that failed to stand up for me and helped me to feel worthless and to me that was unacceptable.

I told her I've been dragging that worthless piece of sh*t identity around with me all my life and IT IS NOT WHO I AM!!!

Who I am is...

Powerful beyond measure.


I am being the possibility of:

1) Integrity
2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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I believe the word of the day is:

Alpha Male.


I am being the possibility of:

1) Integrity
2) Loving myself completely.
3) Things flowing naturally between us, without any fear or attachment to the outcome.

"It's do-able." What are the actions now?
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