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Originally Posted By: sandi2
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Coach has a great way to communicate a great deal of information in a very concise way that is easy to understand. I like that.


I know it.....and it just ticks me off that I can't do that!! wink


Elaboration and details are also good...That's where you excel...


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I was a communications major in college. So from the beginning I explained to BF that when I vented I wasn't looking for him to fix my problems, just to listen to me and offer his support through listening. And I would repeat this before specific conversations. He still had a problem with this for years.

Since you're a reader R2C I would highly recommend You Just Don't Understand by Deborah Tannen.


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HAHAHAHA! You got that right, elaboration and details! My family would agree with your there. grin


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One easy answer that always engages them. " And how does that make you feel".


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I feel like such a loser. How do you get so smart as coach? I so wish I was.

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It ticks us all off that we can't be as wise as coach. how do you learn to be so astute. I wish I "got it" like he does. I am not so wise.

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Women talk about problems to vent/stress relief.
Men talk about problems for advice/help.



So besides being a great listener what ups your catnip quotient?

Let your woman in your world, talk about your day. She's craving to know what is going on in your head. She wants that connection with you. We tend to get quiet when we have a problem and think. We also tend to think its a sign of weakness to let our woman know we are struggling with something. Let her in to your world, intomesee.


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Originally Posted By: DanF
I feel like such a loser. How do you get so smart as coach? I so wish I was.


Do your homework. Listen to how women talk around you all day. Learn from the women here. Listen for the hints and find the true message. Her feelings are her feelings not your problem to fix. Validate. Don't match her feelings when they really swing (BFFs job), stay calm, poised and use humor. Practice. Stay playful. Share your dreams,goals,experiences, fears, and thoughts.

Experience is a great teacher.

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Men, read this because he explains it so much better than I can:

Don't Analyze Your Woman
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If you ever find yourself asking your woman questions about her mood while she is still in it, you are already on the wrong road. First, give her love through your eyes, touch, movement, and tone of voice. Then and only then, after the connection of love has been made, find out what remains to be talked about.


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Originally Posted By: SmartCookie
Maybe I can explain with an example.

I've been fighting with Dr's & insurance companies for months on an ER visit for D14. Let's say I've been on the phone trying to work this out for 30 minutes. H happens to call just as I'm hanging up with them. He can tell I'm upset, he asks what about. I explain it to him. He can reply two ways.

One, (the way my H used to) he reminds me they're just doing their job, & that they have rules & regulations they have to follow & that he's sure it will all work out. Now I'm pissed at H.

Second way of responding (the way he tries to now) He gets pissed at THEM, with me. He takes my side. He tells me how unreasonable they're being & that he can't believe the idiots still have jobs. Now, he's on my side. I feel validated, supported, & understood. He & I laugh after a few minutes, we talk about other things & we hang up. I feel better after talking to him, than I did before. Get it ?

Now, apply it to your R. She's pissed at you. Do you point out you're just doing your job, you have policies & procedures, you're a man & that's how you work ? Or, so you say "gee, I never quite saw it that way, I'll think about what you're saying". You didn't say she's right & you're a total loser. You didn't disagree. You just validated & heard her.

THEN when the R is back on good, solid ground. You can equalize the power & start having agree/disagree conversations. They won't become fights (hopefully) because she knows that you have established a pattern of hearing & validating her in the past.


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