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Hello,

I'm new to posting on these forums.

I'm pretty upset right now, as seems to be the trend in these Posts. I've read DB and currently waiting for DR to come in the mail. My Wife and I have had some problems for the last year, in which about a Month ago she moved in with her sister.

Now thru my countless times of bringing up the Big R in our little time spent together (very bad). I received this Email from her yesterday:

"Look im just done dont want to be with anyone at all...dont want to be married anymore as well. i understand that i may not have given you a fair chance and im sorry. but i just want to move on with myself and be alone. and yeah my track record does suck. sure but i just dont want it anymore."

Too me, it sounds like she is fed up with me talking, but some of you out there are just awesome at interpreting things, so maybe you can see something else.

I'm pretty upset to write any long detailed history so If you could maybe ask questions to clarify on anything it would be much easier to focus.

My goals are to GAL, perform 180's, and Save my Marriage. I look forward to any assistance or advice.

Oh...We've been married for 7 years and have been together for 13. My wife is 43; I'm 37 and we have 2 Dogs No kids.

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Sorry, MC, that you are here.

Gotta ask - do you think there is another person in the pic?

Why does she say she wants to be alone? What are the issues?
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Me45 H46
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Separated and filed 8/08
Moved home 11/08



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Originally Posted By: MCLINAK

Now thru my countless times of bringing up the Big R in our little time spent together (very bad). I received this Email from her yesterday:

"Look im just done dont want to be with anyone at all...dont want to be married anymore as well. i understand that i may not have given you a fair chance and im sorry. but i just want to move on with myself and be alone. and yeah my track record does suck. sure but i just dont want it anymore."


Agree with her.

- She expects you to fight this all the way.
- She expects you to argue with her on this and she expects to be forced into marriage counselling and forced into having a relationship with you that she currently doesn't want.

She really wants freedom from you, then give it to her, give her 100% freedom from you, agree with her feelings, agree with what she wants and give her the one thing she's asking for.

And that's it.

That's your solution.

If she wants to come back after after her freedom from you and the marriage, it's a decision she will have to make.

View the recent gucci thread on this very topic.

Don't spend years languishing trying 100's of different things in an attempt to get her to come back, do the one thing that has the greatest chance of being successful even though it's counter-intuitive and goes against everything your mind is telling you to do (which is pursue her, email her, text her, call her, leave msg's, write letters, plead, beg, grovel, buy gifts, offer to "change and be a better man").

I mean you could spend all your time doing these things or you could just randomly peruse any number of the WAW threads on these forums and notice that these things don't really work.

And if they don't really work, why bother doing them?

If you want something that works, do what actually works.

If you need more info, I'll post a few quotes and a link to that thread but it should be pretty easy to find on this newcomers forum, it's probably on the 4th or 5th page right now.

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Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
Glad to hear you say you agree...

NOW it is time to agree with HER.... wink

"Yes, I now see it. It isn't going to work. I now realize that you really don't love me. I now realize that you are saying that it just isn't there for you and you just don't feel the feelings you want to feel to be in a romantic relationship. I now realize that you believe that you may have NEVER been in love with me. I don't know what took me so long to understand that. It suddenly hit me that it probably irritates you to no end just to give me a hug. I NOW get it. I agree. It is never going to work when a person feels like that. It wouldn't be fair to either one of us. I am not even sure how I feel anymore about you after all that has happened. From this point on I promise you that I am going to stop trying. I should have realized this a long time ago."



And THEN you do exactly that.


No more figuring out. No more wondering. No more analysis. Total acceptance of the reality the way she sees it.


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I truly don't know if there is someone else. My gut says yes, but then knowing her for all these years "I don't think she is". But TBH people change and anything can happen.

There are a lot of issues.... From me neglecting her by sitting in front of a computer for hours on end; Drinking too much; Smoking; Laziness; not having a life basically. Times she reached out to me and it went in one ear out the other. Pretty clueless.

One day, my eyes opened when she told me that she wasn't sure if she wanted to be with me anymore. I understood why, took it like a man, and "said" I would change. Yeah I changed and turned into a Panic Driven Wuss. Like a damn psychopath.

Ive accused her of cheating, question her constantly about where she's been, just constantly over and over have given her a hard time. The more I do it, the more guilt I feel, the worst it keeps getting. Now she moved into her sister's house.

I have done really good about not giving her a hard time. We were getting along somewhat and I was giving her space...then one night I got drunk by myself about 2 weeks ago and I texted a bunch of crap that I shouldn't have.

She is now extremely upset and has lost all feeling to come home. We went on a Brunch date last Sunday, where I brought up the Big R. Now, the email yesterday and me typing on here today.

Sorry if I'm rambling. I'm pretty upset about the whole damn thing.

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Originally Posted By: MCLINAK
Hello,

I'm new to posting on these forums.

I'm pretty upset right now, as seems to be the trend in these Posts. I've read DB and currently waiting for DR to come in the mail. My Wife and I have had some problems for the last year, in which about a Month ago she moved in with her sister.

Now thru my countless times of bringing up the Big R in our little time spent together (very bad). I received this Email from her yesterday:

"Look im just done dont want to be with anyone at all...dont want to be married anymore as well. i understand that i may not have given you a fair chance and im sorry. but i just want to move on with myself and be alone. and yeah my track record does suck. sure but i just dont want it anymore."

Too me, it sounds like she is fed up with me talking, but some of you out there are just awesome at interpreting things, so maybe you can see something else.

I'm pretty upset to write any long detailed history so If you could maybe ask questions to clarify on anything it would be much easier to focus.

My goals are to GAL, perform 180's, and Save my Marriage. I look forward to any assistance or advice.

Oh...We've been married for 7 years and have been together for 13. My wife is 43; I'm 37 and we have 2 Dogs No kids.



Other man. No doubt. Have you checked??

Methinks she doth protest too greatly about "being alone" -- huge red flag, MCL. Sorry.

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you have issues obviously to take care of:
- getting a real life
- getting in better physical shape, not for her, but for you
- fixing those lazy attitudes
- controlling the drinking and smoking and eliminating these things if you can or controlling them

In general, living a life worth living instead of just.... existing.

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I agree with Puppy

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Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
For those of you hurting and searching for your answers...

Setting them free is the key...
It will also begin to set YOU free...

Love works best when it is freely given..

This means to those of you who have a wayward that your chances to reconcile will be maximized when you really set your wayward free to go. They have to feel that they are totally free.... As Dobson says.. Let the cage door open and let them out...

Funny thing is that once they have their freedom it suddenly doesn't have the same pazazz as they once thought it would. They have been trying so hard to get out of your grasp that they didn't have time to think about what they would feel once they were really free of you.... Think about that

I know this from my own experience with women and from my own observations...


Any thoughts? Anybody looking for help in setting them free?
The faster you do, the faster things progress. Not only for YOU but maybe even for the whole relationship...

I have heard many people say "I don't want to look back and say that I didn't try everything"

Have you really tried setting them free? for good?


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