The OM's W has a right to know the facts and make her own decissions.
You have a right to know the facts and make your own decissions.
Keep it as business like as possible. The point is not to redeem yourself or character assasinate your estranged W.
The point is to get the unvarnished truth out and put it on the table for all the affected parties to make their own choices.
Do not violate the court order, and you shouldn't have sent the text reply. Stop making this mistake. You are letting your emotions dictate your actions.
Here is your plan:
1. Share info with OM's W. 2. Be the best parent you can be and protect your kids. 3. Be the confident, self-assured adult in what is otherwise a bad episode of the Jerry Springer Show.
Good advice
M22,H45,W45 S21/18D12 Retain faith that you will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties and at the same time confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.
Well I did expose it and learned some very nasty heartbreaking details Timeheals. The OM Wife suspected something, and advised that OM told her that WAW did the following insane things.
WAW asked for sex on her period to OM, showed OM some pics of her that only I have seen where she is wearing underwear. She advised that WAW also was causing a ruckus with her, because she had messaged WAW on facebook, and my WAW got rude with her and even blocked her on facebook.
WAW told OM Wife that she was lucky that she believed they were an item if it made her want to come back to her Husband.
She also told OM W that they were really just close friends, and that she has several adult partners boyfriends. UGHHH I am not really sure how true that is and maybe was a smokescreen or something. I dont know what to believe.
WAW ended up calling me and well I told her that Id like full custody or reconciliation, she said to me " WE ARE OVER " was very mean, said I had hurt her beyond belief and that we are over. I said I had made changes i know big mistake, emotion took over, and she said Ill never Love you again, that I need to go get laid or find someone else.
She said she had a boyfriend also, which if she means OM i get it. She never did verify it but I am not stupid. I then said well, I want full custody, and she blew her top. She started threatning my other daughter and saying she would cause my dad problems because he is old and has a bad heart.
She even said she would go get pregnant again, she just knows how to push my buttons. I am so devastated.
Eventually she did start to calm and said she would consider SHARED CUSTODY, No Child Support or Health Insurance, and that we could work to being civil friends, but that i should not expect her to ever want to come back to me.
I told her I would think about it, and well I think this is a good idea really, but man after all the craziness she is now causing with someone elses marriage, mooching money off OMs Mom, and not paying her bills, she has finally lost it.
I think Shared would be the best, but if she is rotating guys in and out, making death threats, wrecking other marriages, and causing more drama then humanly possible I just dont know.
She used to be so sweet and kind to me. And now she is the devil, and has been for 3 months.
M 36 W 29 Together 2 1/2 years married 14 months Daughter 15 months Bomb 4/22/10 Separated since 4/25/10 OM 6/10/10 Hopeful, but moving on
I hate to have to say this, but the first thing you need to do is stop making threats and hire a lawyer.
If she is with multiple men, then she isn't a good role model, so if you are ready to really grow up fast and be a real man, it's time to go papa bear and protect your children from the harm she is capable of inflicting at the moment.
I thought there was a no contact order? She called you? Can you report this?
Last edited by TimeHeals; 06/11/1001:42 AM.
M-47,W-40,No kids D-filed 5/27/2010 Piecing - 10/21/2010 -=Soon to be banned=-
Timeheals i actually seen IC right after this and I told him about it. He advised that if I dont report it he would, for her threatening my kids so I did. CPS was notified about it.
I feel like I dont know what the hell is happening, and well I agree I do need to be Papa Bear because if any of it is true its just plain sick, she is not normal any more.
I dont understand why I STILL CARE?!?! I cried at IC because I am so in love with her, because I just remember the sweet W that she once was. I just didnt see the warning signs I guess, she extremely attractive and was so good to me for a while.
I guess i keep thinking of myself her and the baby and the good times. I hate that I cannot detach it is destroying me and now that I have confirmed OM it just got worse in every way.
I MUST DETACH!! And I have to let go.
I will do whats right for DD1 and if that means full custody at least until she gets her [censored] together, then maybe it can go Joint then.
I am so distraught its not funny, i feel like i need to get drunk and sleep for 2 straight days or something.
M 36 W 29 Together 2 1/2 years married 14 months Daughter 15 months Bomb 4/22/10 Separated since 4/25/10 OM 6/10/10 Hopeful, but moving on
I am so distraught its not funny, i feel like i need to get drunk and sleep for 2 straight days or something.
I'd say alcohol is about the last thing you need right now.
If you are going to go looking for a crutch to help you through this, then get a script for anti-depressants or such. Your counselor may be able to hook you up with a better recommendation.
M-47,W-40,No kids D-filed 5/27/2010 Piecing - 10/21/2010 -=Soon to be banned=-
I am already on them Timeheals - they work great, but after these new developments there effect is NIL. I think I had set a expectation with her like a fool. And after she pushed all my buttons saying NEVER AGAIN I DONT LOVE YOU, and finding out about other man, emotion got the best of me.
I will continue and I guess I will move on and find some female companionship or something. I need to get over this fast if it even means dating.
M 36 W 29 Together 2 1/2 years married 14 months Daughter 15 months Bomb 4/22/10 Separated since 4/25/10 OM 6/10/10 Hopeful, but moving on
No your right. You really are, everyone is right. I am just struggling hard right now. I am just the Anti-Vulcan at this point, cant get a grip.
I have probably caused myself this emotional distress by not detaching and ignoring things. I need to do this, just completly deal with my heartache and get over this. I will focus on my kids.
I spent time with DD1 tonight, and well it completely gets my mind off all this, but I only get her for about 2-3 hrs and then I have to leave my sisters house.
They are so good, and really adore her so much. They made her a nice Girl room with all her toys and things, and she just started walking. I fed her, played with her, and had so much fun. Its about the only time I am able to push back the pain.
Yea I probably shouldn't date your right, legal reasons, even if WAW is.
I just wish I had the strength of some on this board, I did pray for clarity for the past 3 days, but also that we could be re-united too. I guess god answered my prayers and showed me the STONE COLD truth about what she is up too.
Man I feel so stupid right now.
M 36 W 29 Together 2 1/2 years married 14 months Daughter 15 months Bomb 4/22/10 Separated since 4/25/10 OM 6/10/10 Hopeful, but moving on
have probably caused myself this emotional distress by not detaching and ignoring things.
It's alright to have the feelings you are having. You do not act on your feelings however. That is strength. When you are calm, you make plans, you act on plans and when your thinking is clear.
When you feel strong emotions, you just feel them. Don't act on them for your own good.
Quote:
I just wish I had the strength of some on this board,
We are all weak sometimes. You don't become strong without having been weak and learning from it.
I don't know if you are a religous person at all, but Judeo/Christian/Islam promote the idea that sometimes God tests us in order to strengthen us. In other words, the things that really test us emotionally can make us stronger, so they can actually be a gift.
By stronger, I don't mean harder or more cynical. I mean more open, empathetic, and yet having more self-control.
Last edited by TimeHeals; 06/11/1002:31 AM.
M-47,W-40,No kids D-filed 5/27/2010 Piecing - 10/21/2010 -=Soon to be banned=-
Update - OM W called and said that WAW was kicked out of MIL's house and that she would like to get some information from me regarding WAW, in case she decides to divorce and go for full custody. I guess i could show her some info, but it looks as if exposing this ea possible pa worked.
OM deleted WAW from facebook, she supposedly was kicked out of his moms house, and well that leaves things in a very weird state.
OM's Mom is the court monitor for WAW to get visitation with DD1. I am honestly worried now about WAW's mental state, and where she will end up. It is possible she can lose her job over all this as well since she works for OM's mom.
I told OM's wife that I was glad to expose this and hope that they can get over this and stay married.
My sister is going to call OM's mom and find out what is going on. I wish WAW would wake up and see the craziness she has created in her life. If this becomes rock bottom, maybe she will begin to miss what she had get help and maybe make the M work.
The last thing I told my Lawyer was that I was interested in giving WAW a chance by pushing for mediation and full shared custody with no Child Support. WAW seemed as if this is what she wanted to do and said we could work on being friends for DD1.
I honestly decided on this, and now all this happens with her. I am worried yet again about if I am going to have to tell Lawyer I want full custody, and to come up with some serious cash for this case.
I guess Ill find out sooner or later.
I got to GAL last night and went out, met a really nice girl just as friends and had a good time talking with her, nothing serious but it was nice to talk to a pretty woman who can carry a great conversation.
Thats all for now.
M 36 W 29 Together 2 1/2 years married 14 months Daughter 15 months Bomb 4/22/10 Separated since 4/25/10 OM 6/10/10 Hopeful, but moving on