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Originally Posted By: sandycay
When they learn to accept responsibility for their actions and pay attention to what they are doing


Funny that words like this would come out of his mouth. Is he ever going to accept responsibility for walking out on his kids and wife.... uh.....heehaw, heehaw...



Sorry couldn't resist the donkey sounds.


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Perfect June ~ wish it was worth it to point that out but honestly, he has confessed to being responsible for not being able to forgive himself therefore, he can not live with me or be with me because I deserve better. He's a martyr! It's all about him.

It was his choice he was forgiven and allowed back ... but he was broken on the inside and he is now his own worst enemy.

LMAO @ the Donkey sounds I have it on my ringtones and would love to put it on as his but I don't becuase of the kids... but I do have a picture of a donkey on a boat thanks to Kerry that does pop up when he calls. ;-)


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Mother's Day Weekend was such a blessing. FFG had the kids write him so he could put on the card what they wanted to say. So, he sent 2 dozen roses, a box of chocolates, and some wonderful bathing scents (lotions, beads, oils). That was friday. Then on Sunday morning he gave me a card, the kids gave me a room scenty thing (you know with the oil and sticks) and my most favorite breakfast prepared. Then we went to church, then took met his mom and took her and I and my kids out to Linner and then went and saw Iron man 2. He was asking what I wanted to do I chose that because I know he was wanting to see it soon.

So it was fantastic and peaceful and wonderful amd my kids were happy. Last night they both thanked him for helping them. I felt a little bad because it must have been pretty pricey to help the kids do all this.

The kids have no idea where their dad is. They dont know if he is in country or out. He said he would text them and thy haven't heard from hin since Wednesdayy. EXH sent a text to me yesterday with a Happy Mother's Day. And that was it. Never asked the kids if they wanted to do anything for me, so I will have to ponder the same thing for him on Father's Day. I would have never thought to not ask the kids if they wanted to do something for him or give them money to take him out to eat.

Oh well, off to face Algebra Tests!


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My STBXW had the girls for Mother's Day and I didn't call her, text or do anything.

That may seem cold but last year I got kicked out on Mother's Day so I doubt I will ever "celebrate" it.

My mom died 13 years ago and I went to the cemetery. That was it for me.

On father's day I want nothing from STBXW -- she didn't acknowledge my birthday or our anniversary. She's rapidly, rapidly becoming dead to me.


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Sounds like you had a fabulous time, SC. Frankly I am surprised he even texted you, with the foul mood he's been in.

I really need to see Iron Man 1 so I can go see #2! smile


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Frankly, I was surprised he surfaced as well. But no contact with the kids is what is bad. He told them he would text or call them when he traveled (he has a global phone) Oh well,

This was my first Mother's Day without my mom. My EXH dropped the IDLY about 3 weeks after her death. So, I tried to not go there for this holiday. It hurts to much, I miss my mom but I am thankful that neither her or my dad (passed in 2001) have had to watch this marriage fiasco. They loved EXH and thought he was the real deal.


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Well, EXH surfaced over the weekend and text the S and called the D. It seemed to be positive conversation with the D and S was hurt that his dad didn't call him.

D asked me when Father's Day was and I told her and she said "Oh, good I am making something for FFG in woodshop like I made you" (she made me a wooden cross). Ouch, for her own dad. I asked her to please think about hurt feelings on the other side and she stated well he doesn't act like a dad towards me and hasn't and FFG shows interest in me and listens and does things with me and includes me and goes to my game. I know he will never be my dad but atleast I can thank him for being a part of my life that's positive." Ouch for EXH.

Realistically, S was upset by this because "it will hurt dad, but then he has hurt her worse but the difference is DAD DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING, THAT IS HURTING EVERYONE BECUASE THERE IS SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG WITH HIM" (he didnt' shout I just thought the statement was profound for a 15 yr old to recognize that "he has hurt her way worse than she could ever hurt him".

I have spent a lot of time thinking about this gift for Father's Day to FFG and I dont' think I can tell her that it's wrong or not to do it. Becuase then would I be telling her "hey, if someone shows you love and respect don't give them a gift"

Any thoughts? Do I just let it her do what her heart desires? She loves FFG... she has told me this. Yikes, my heart flopped to the pit of my stomach and back because of her risk of getting hurt. Of course, FFG has shown nothing but good during all of this.

We (I) had an issue with his EXW and her lack of boundaries and after a few days of thinking about I was able to sit and communicate with him my thoughts/concerns over it and I was nervous as hell because we have not had to have those types of serious talks before. So the first one is nerve wracking.

He listened, understood, asked quesitons when he didnt' understand what I was trying to come across and become enlightend in the ways of subtle evil women such as her. He was able to make a few points as well and it was wonderful to have a situation that could have been bad turn into a conversation and resolution. So, now we will watch to see if his actions match his words. So far so good!


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Sounds complex, everybody's feelings, the hurt, the boundaries, balance... But you are doing a great job "joggling" and FFG sounds better and better...
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I say your D can make a gift for whomever she wants, that's her decision. I know it is sad for FFG but so be it. If any of your kids do want your help in getting their dad a gift, I would help them get a gift. But if they do not, I wouldn't force them...in my case I will help my kids bc they are little (4 & 7) and do want to get him a gift...


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I will make sure the kids do something for their father. I won't stoop to just sending a text as he did. It seems EXH has called the kids and both kids had good conversations. In fact, S said "I think he is working on it because I said something and he started to reply with hostility and then stopped and changed his tone"

It would be nice if when he came back to the states that he would get the kids for a visit because having only 6 nights to myself since the 1st of the year stinks!

FFG's ex wife was at a softball game we were at for FFG's Daughter and stood literally 3 inches behind our chairs and was talking to another mom. She kept telling story after story about "we" referring to things her and FFG did while they were married and " how much fun "we" had doing blah blah blah"

Later that week he picked up the kids from her at a parade in which she proceeded to stay in the vicinity where he was watching it with the kids (my D was there, I was not) and then ask that he give her a ride back to her car. Now, these are people that don't even really go into each others homes. She has no boundaries.... she threw a fit because we are throwing the kids and end of the year party 16 multi aged kids over night and she wanted to come to his house for the party. He said No and she flipped out.

So, I had to let him know that I found it disrespectful behavior that she was exhibiting towards me... talking that way at the ball game in front of me. And that she probably got some pleasure from the fact that he gave her a ride. (He couldnt' say no in that situation) but I encouraged him to think ahead and not be in those situations.

I have my values and beliefs and I believe that one day we will all be able to be around each other but right now because our (FFG & I) relationship is new.... I dont' need her in it in that capacity. She is a type of woman that likes all of her exes around and sees no problem answering her door in scanty clothes, kissing them on the mouth and inviting them to dinner. She doesn't understand why FFG doesn't do this things..."as it's no big deal". She likes a bevy of men lapping at her heels and she just happens to be broken up from her latest little man. So she has upped her attention to FFG.

So, I am aware that we/he has to share common space and communicate about the kids for schedules and such but she has no boundaries so he needs to keep his stronger as give her an inch she'll take a mile. I was glad he told her she couldn't come to his house for the party.. it's an all day party....seriously why would she want to come? Weirdo!


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