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I cant speak for Rob himself, but I have never taught Rob has ever been belittling. I think there are people who are going through the same stuff or those that don't want to get involved or mothers that want to be huggy and sweet and offer a shoulder to cry on, and there are others that want to help open your eyes to the reality of the situation (as harsh as it may feel when it smacks you on the side of the head).

People change Peabody. My wife and I are not the same people we were when we met 20 years ago, or 10 years ago or 5 years ago for that matter. Neither are you and your wife. Changes take place in our body; where once we were horny bastards and our wives were thinking gowns and children and love language, many men are now career and family driven and trying to make the best with what little we got thinkin that is what it takes; while their wives are thinking I'm horny and this young guy from marketing his constantly hitting on me and my husband falls asleep snoring without even noticing ... me.

There is a book out now by John Gray, venus on fire mars on ice, that might help to explain in a best selling author approach (although personally I have always like Rob's writing style and have found it very charismatic and reality driven).

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Mr Peabody -

I'm out the door right now (going running), but, a huge part of my ability to handle my situation w/courage and dignity came from Rob's words. He's cheeky as hell, and worth digesting every word.

I'll come back later and give you some excerpts from TWO YEARS of this... Don't take that long to get it. It's incredibly freeing to do and be yourself.

-- One who finally gets it, is applying it, and now living it!



PS - The book McQueen mentioned is fab. He's right too, that guy from Marketing is pretty damn tempting compared to what is snoring us in the face.
PSS - If you're on fb, I'd be glad to help. Your posts remind me so much of myself for so long. It's like looking in a fun house mirror, and realizing how much distortion of you is peering back. BLECHBLECHBLECH

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Originally Posted By: robx
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Really? Is that what you got out of that? When a woman doesn't want foreplay and doesn't engage, but gets upset when you don't leap at the opportunity to ravage her and be done in 5 minutes.... that is a problem.

I'm still trying to decide if it is WAW or MLC...it doesn't matter much for me the LBS, but getting an understanding would be great.


PB, women are more sexual then men are, the ability to have multiple orgasms quickly should give you a clue about that. If you're not "doin' it" for her and she gets bored with you and asks "are you done yet?", huge problems there.

Don't concern yourself with WAW or MLC,
concern yourself with showing her the way out since she had an affair. Chasing and pursuing her even though she disrespected you is only going to win you more disrespect from her.


Depends on the woman. If sexual ability is defined by amount of orgasms or stamina or what?

I also agree with the last quote about WAW's and MLC, can't really chase them.

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Well, its been a weird week. She's been here swearing nothing has changed. Still denying everything. I know more than she thinks. Do I confront? Do I hold it for later?

I got some lawyerly advice and realized she is getting legal aide advice.... and bad at that.


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I'm not sure I understand boundaries...can you point me to the famous "Coaches message about Boundaries?"



http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1859179#Post1859179


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Thanks for the link Sandi. I think I finally understand the concept. It isn't what I can do or can't do or enforce. It is what I will tolerate as a human being.

Another lie discovered today. She just went underground on a social site, rather than quitting it. Not that I cared either way, but it was just another lie that didn't really need to be said.

She is pushing to pull away, but wants all sorts of conditions that will allow her to do so gracefully and without consequence. It is my desire that she go, so I am at a loss to give her what she wants so she will leave or not give her what she wants but have her stay.


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Come back and talk to us Mr. PB.


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