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I'm wondering if there's anything to this...I know my own eyes show the phone calls.

I have access to our joint stuff...nothing there and in my line of work I would not every try to access her personal accounts it's too much risk for me professionally.

I reviewed everything today from the keylogger and it was all very mundane with no OM contact but this is my challenge. They communicate via that bloody cell phone.

I'm not sure I have the stomach for all this 'intel' gathering. Is there another way?


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sim card reader depending on her phone model...

I also understand you can try the bluff- figure out as much as you can...new clothes, new parfume, new undies (sexy), grooming habbits, change in hours, long errands,- they also say women have a glow about them in an A of some type- heck you prob notice a huge change in her confidence, distance, etc...

Then you can just say, I know what's happening here, you're not fooling anyone.

I'd consult Pup and Allen to see if that's worth a try...


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Jasper you are right on the money - she sleeps with her cell phone beside her and takes it into the washroom. It's so pathetic! You have nailed her to a tee.

Always buying new clothes - two new items in the mail just this week, new undies check, long errands (just this Saturday) check.

Puppy or Allen - what do you both think?


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Its sad that all the signs are there...FOG included- like its not obv to anyone...

Def hold out for PUP and Allen...there are always other ways...the GPS is a great idea...I pulled it one night, but it alerted W and I was busted so go the pay as you go cell way...prob cost you 100-200 bucks for one month of decent intel...

NEVER GIVE YOUR INTEL AWAY


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Keeps getting better - she emailed from my computer her tax filings from the last 2 years - that's going to a L for sure or banker.


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Originally Posted By: BWP


I'm not sure I have the stomach for all this 'intel' gathering. Is there another way?


You can fight for your marriage blind, but we reccomend you do as much recon as you can so you know what you are dealing with.. you certainly can't trust your spouse to TELL you what' the heck the state of the union is can you?

Never had to deal with teenagers?

Same deal pretty much isn't it?

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you can find out for sure, did you look into the e-mail address...sound more like a banker...I think courts need 3 years


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Originally Posted By: BWP
I'm wondering if there's anything to this...



OK, let me ask you a question. Well, TWO actually:

1. How did she find the recorder, unless she went looking for it?

2. Who goes looking for a recorder, UNLESS they are guilty?

Thought so.

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sim card reader depending on her phone model...

I also understand you can try the bluff- figure out as much as you can...new clothes, new parfume, new undies (sexy), grooming habbits, change in hours, long errands,- they also say women have a glow about them in an A of some type- heck you prob notice a huge change in her confidence, distance, etc...

Then you can just say, I know what's happening here, you're not fooling anyone.

I'd consult Pup and Allen to see if that's worth a try...


I personally think a bluff would work. Consider:

1. She doesn't know how long that recorder had been there, and what you may have gleaned from it already.

2. She doesn't know what other intel you might have.

In fact, if she should SAY anything to you about the recorder, I would just smile at her confidently, and say "That's OK, I have what I needed already."

Bluffs are almost always effective. The cheating spouse doesn't know what you know, and what you don't know.

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Jasper you are right on the money - she sleeps with her cell phone beside her and takes it into the washroom. It's so pathetic! You have nailed her to a tee.

Always buying new clothes - two new items in the mail just this week, new undies check, long errands (just this Saturday) check.

Puppy or Allen - what do you both think?


I think she is either playing you, totally bluffing, or she's guilty as hell and nose-tweaking, big-time.

The problem is, those are two very different -- OPPOSITE, in fact -- extremes.

Waywards always get sloppy. ALWAYS. Just play it cool, and wait her out. You will have other opportunities, but I wouldn't try to get them in the next week or two, as she'll be watching you closely.

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