There is no doubt that Randy is willing, but how does he get his W to join in the fun? Having said that, the massage is big in my book. Also, it seems that his W doesn't run away when he makes suggestions. Do you think it could be tinme for Randy to ask his wife if they can go to counseling together?
Thanks everyone Elwood,XW was seeing someone and I think she thought it was meant to be but he told her no way was he leaving his family and to leave him alone,that was a shortly after our D.get this after I brought the food from her house she came in the kitchen and said look what I got,she had picked up some charms for her bracelet,one for each of the girls and and 1 she liked and yes a fire helmet for me and it's for her bracelet,has got to mean something.Then this morning I was shaving in the bathroom in my shorts and in she walks with just her bra on top on.I have been trying to give her privacy and not push anything that might make her uncomfortable.It was quite a surprise but I somehow kept my cool.Missy,you're cheerleading outfit,well I don't think anyone would notice the color,if you know what I mean. As for conseling,I think as strongly as she is against it for any reason she would still not go for it,she would say look what we have done on our own,etc.Good things come to those that wait,hang tough everyone,it will be you're turn
I asked because that seemed to be similar to your suggestion. She will have to initiate the suggeston you have. Perhaps the real question is how does Randy encourage the behavior. Because I have no clue.
(A brief aside, Missy. I have been thinking about you quite a bit lately. It is because the situation in which I will be soon - X and OM living with my kids. I know you have stayed at your ex's. I am a bit nervous about it. But I do want to be the class act in the situation. So if you have words of wisdom, I am all ears.)
Randy,
You are correct about the color of the cheerleading outfit. Missy is a great looking woman in any color!
Hopefully with the massages that can slowly lead to the comfortable zone of being touched and the security that Randy isn't all about what men want most . . . sex! Randy you need to wipe the drool before you begin the massages though - dead give away!
IMP - what do you mean? Are you going to be staying there at their house? I did it twice staying at my X's house while my kids were there - never again. Now my X stays here when he comes to town but it is just him and that is fine. Odd to many but works for me.
You cracked me up with the drool comment...Randy, you need to listen to Missy. She is a very wise woman! And Missy, you make a very good point about what men want.
As for my situation, I have a thread on surviving. Perhaps, you'll stop by there, Missy, and tell me what it was like being around the OW. But I do see contact between OM and me although the X said she will keep it to a minimum.
You all have fine points and have been a god send to me.XW moved some more clothes to the house this weekend so I am making room for those and cleaning out all her old drawers for her to have again.It's strange because I am happier than I was but know I could be even happier,I mentioned that we could talk anytime she wanted and that we should work on our communication. I don't regret where i am at right now,just wish it was complete.