She probably isn't open to seeing any changes in you right now. But she might if she sees them on a consistent basis time after time after time. Which it seems you have the luxury of since she's told you HER timeline.
Everybody hurts. It's part of life. Don't miss the good stuff.
Eric, This may sound harsh but you've got some work to do my friend. Every one of the questions you asked sounds like someone who is paralyzed by fear. Seems you are questioning every move you make. Your driving yourself nuts.
Go back and work on yourself. You have mentioned that you were controlling. Did you just white knuckle through this? Generally people are controlling for a reason. Have you addressed those reasons?
Use this as a learning and growing experience. Live the life you want to live. Then invite your W to join you. Hopefully she has worked on herself enough to appreciate what she has in you.
_________________________ Me-41 W-39 M-15 yrs T-17 yrs D-12 S-9 S-8 B 5/08 S 1/09
Jack - if I knew how to show her I would do it. Whatever it takes I just don't know how to what to show her. How can i try and get her to tell me I am not suppose to bring up R convo?
"The difficulties of Life are intended to make us BETTER,not bitter". "Fear is a prison, where you are the jailer. FREE YOURSELF!" "Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B." - Jack3Beans
C-Bart Thanks. I have worked on myself - trust me. Been in see a C since this began. I have identifed all my issues and the cause of them. In one way you are correct in that I am operating a little bit from fear but it is the fear that I do not want to do anything to make matters worst for me. I want to make sure that the actions I take are both for me and in the hope of restoring a marraige. I was also pretty selfish during the whole marragie, which is why right now I try and sit tight and let her drive but it does drive me a little crazy in taht I feel like I have no idea what i could do to make/see an improvement.
"The difficulties of Life are intended to make us BETTER,not bitter". "Fear is a prison, where you are the jailer. FREE YOURSELF!" "Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B." - Jack3Beans
If you were controlling before, try and work with her on the finances. Focus on non-relationship things like co-parenting. Be very tuned into yourself and your actions. If something is getting to you walk away and focus internally. This is a good test for you and will help you grow.
_________________________ Me-41 W-39 M-15 yrs T-17 yrs D-12 S-9 S-8 B 5/08 S 1/09
C-Bart - I have not exploded or even demonstrated any negative feeling towards her but I feel like she now thinks that I may be a push over and that it is okay for her to continue to have a EA. I do feel that I am growing but will admit I am lacking on the patience side of things. Please check in on my thread from time to time - trust me I need the support right now.
"The difficulties of Life are intended to make us BETTER,not bitter". "Fear is a prison, where you are the jailer. FREE YOURSELF!" "Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B." - Jack3Beans
Jack - but I don't know what improvements I am looking for. Outside of the controlling thing I am not sure what else to look for. It seems like she has totally checked out so I am not sure if I should take a different tack. Please check in on my thread from time to time I value your comments (not to mention I think your a riot).
"The difficulties of Life are intended to make us BETTER,not bitter". "Fear is a prison, where you are the jailer. FREE YOURSELF!" "Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B." - Jack3Beans
It seems like she has totally checked out so I am not sure if I should take a different tack.
Again she is depressed. There is nothing YOU can control to make her undepressed. If you have been controlling the last thing you want to do is to try to control her depression! That will backfire. You can be friendly but be detached. Give her space. She needs to work this out on her schedule. Not yours. This is not something that is going to get fixed fast.
When I asked if you read the resources I am trying to get through to you what this process is. How long it takes. You need patience.