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CityGirl #1873720 11/13/09 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: CityGirl
In order for a healthy friendship to develop again between you and your W you BOTH need to set healthy boundaries and enforce them. Only then will things improve for YOU and maybe her. Maybe not.

Leaving the issue of 1000.00 spent in one week up in the air is a bad idea. It will continue to fester inside of you as you are upset about it and your W knows it. In turn, she will pull away from you even further knowing you are upset and eventually that could lead to further financial damage.

That is the exact reason I suggest you approach this 1000.00 issue as a SOLUTION and not a problem. Yes, you need to get to the bottom of it but the way you went about doing it was not productive. I gave you a "script" to use or at least guide you in a previous post about how to approach the money issue. Why did you not even consider it before you went for the gut?

Your W didn't react how you wanted her to so you deemed things hopeless and tried to scare her into acting how you want her to by asking for the mediator's number. I think we both know it was an empty threat and did nothing but drive a wedge further between the two of you.

Set boundaries first then perhaps something more can develop. The job issue is hers to own and work out. Listen more than you talk, validate and don't "fix".

I would let her know though that due to the status of your marriage you feel it's most prudent to put together a financial plan that works for the both of you. If she resists then let her know that you will involve a 3rd party to guide you but if you say that, be prepared to DO IT.


Okay I hear you.

I really am frustrated with this whole thing I guess thats why I got pissed off and threatened. Mistake yes I understand.

Thank you for your help.

I will approach the money and work topic in the way you have suggested.

I keep seeing people use the word boundries but I am not sure what exactly to do with that.

Sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

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Early on in my situation I had lots of trouble with boundaries. I understood the concept, I knew I wanted to set and enforce them but never seemed to be able to. I understand it's not an easy thing to do however it will help you and perhaps help your situation.

For me, sometimes it helps to remove the emotion of the situation and look at things in a different way. If you had a co-worker that was constantly rummaging through your desk while you were at lunch what would you do? You would need to set a boundary in a firm yet polite fashion that this will not continue, your personal space is not to be touched or tampered with and you will no longer accept such behavior. Bam - boundary set. You made your boundary clear. If this continued despite you setting a boundary then and only then would you escalate the issue to management or human resources.

That all sounds reasonable, right? If you apply the same line of thought to setting boundaries with your W things will get easier for you. Set the boundary in a kind and polite fashion. If she chooses not to honor the boundary then escalate the enforcement of the boundary.

Using the 1000.00 situation as an example - having the boundary talk about coming up with a mutual agreeable financial plan would have been step 1. It actually could have opened up communication for the both of you in a new way. But you got pissed and frustrated and went right for the gut, the scare tactic and the big dramatic finish before you even tried to set a reasonable boundary.

Thinking back to the hypothetical work situation I posted above you would not be able to "go for the gut" and use scare tactics before attempting to set a firm boundary with your co-worker. It would deem you unprofessional and chances are you could have ramifications simply due to the way you handled things. Your first attempt with co-worker would be "Co-worker, when I am not here you are not to touch my personal things or my desk under any circumstance without my permission. If you are unable to respect my personal space I will remain professional but will have to enforce this by escalating to boss/HR".

That would be reasonable. You would not threaten to kick his ass in the parking lot w/o at least *trying* to set a boundary as you could lose your job or even be arrested. With your W though you bypassed the boundary and went right for the "ass kicking" because she didn't respond as you hoped.

This is a learning process and I think from this incident alone you can learn an awful lot that will be helpful to you.

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Okay we had a fairly okay weekend packing and getting ready for the move.

We were with each other but had absoulutely nothing to say.

Last night she tells me there is a letter for me. It is from the mediator she has been to see.

I am kind of choked and have a bath and go to bed.

This morning at work I get an email with her list of demands.

This much cash payout
This much spousal support
This much child support

What now? Is it normal they move this quick?

I think I need to accept that this is over.

I want to "BUST" it but it seems pointless today.

Should I throw in the towel here?

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BTW I have not responded to the email

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Oh and I start the 1st of six over the phone DB today.

Feeling like a bit of a waste of money at this point

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Originally Posted By: gettinsomenads


Should I throw in the towel here?


Only if you want to. Doesn't seem to me like a guy with a username of "gettingsomenads" would be the cut-and-run type tho.

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Originally Posted By: gettinsomenads
BTW I have not responded to the email


I would give it 12-24 hours. And then respond:

"Just wanted to let you know that I have received this. I will discuss this with my atty, and he will be back in touch. GSN"

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Originally Posted By: gettinsomenads
Is it normal they move this quick?



It often is, when there is someone else. They get pressured by OM/OW, and/or they feel guilty about playing both ends against the middle. So they try to hasten things along much faster.

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Hey Puppy,

Thanks for your responses.

Okay I got it back together.

Not throwing in towel.

Sent email saying that I already told her I would deal with this after we move.

Been snaging that phone. No texts in memory. No suspicious calls in history.

Just had my first phone call with the coach. Went well got some good ideas on how to proceed and 180's

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NO TEXTS WHATSOEVER in memory? Or just no SUSPICIOUS ones?

How many texts per month does she normally send/receive?

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