You know, I'm a bit on the fringe with my holistic leanings but the whole drug thing seems like another path with future unintended consequences. Maybe part of our purpose here on earth is to struggle and evolve, as hard as that is. Of course, some say "why not make it easier?" And those same people think I'm crazy for having opted to give birth without drugs, but I was cognizant of some of those unintended consequences and I am so grateful that I was completely conscious, present and feeling for both of my children's births...no one can quantify what is gained by going through that experience and being so mindful and aware of what was happening while it happened. I digress, but my point is, by taking the edge off, are we averting necessary growth and personal understanding? Both individually and collectively. And of course all drugs have side effects.
There are caveats of course but I think it is worth considering.
A World Health Organization Study on the prevalence of mental disorders in 14 countries shows that the number of adults who exprience a mental disorder during any 12 month period ranges from 4.3% to 26.4% depending on the country. Countries that reported the highest rates were:
• The United States of America – 26.4%
Sorry to say- but there is gold in them there hills.
I digress, but my point is, by taking the edge off, are we averting necessary growth and personal understanding? Both individually and collectively. And of course all drugs have side effects.
There are caveats of course but I think it is worth considering.
Very good points. I'm inclined to jump right on your bandwagon in theory. But when I stop to think its not so easy. Do we let Darwinistic evolution run full throttle? Where do we draw the line? I probably would have lost W and first daughter during delivery without significant drugs, surgery and medical intervention!
On the flip side I was taking drugs for depression and hypertension before I left W. I was convinced that heredity had done me in and I had zero hope for control over that. Now I am fit, happy healthy and taking nothing. Don't need it. Hmmmm
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
I probably would have lost W and first daughter during delivery without significant drugs, surgery and medical intervention!
I don't mean to get too personal but often, if one starts with medical intervention (bed-bound, drugs etc) it can actually cause more harm and lead to intervention and surgery. I done a lot of research on this and I don't purport to know more than doctors, I just have seen how the way patients are handled can lead to serious problems. I have no idea in your case.
And, I am extremely grateful for medical technology and intervention when it is completely necessary.
You know, I'm a bit on the fringe with my holistic leanings but the whole drug thing seems like another path with future unintended consequences.
Now that's a whole 'nother ball of string (Do they really work? Are they the right solution? How much should we feel?). I take mine, but with a grain of salt.
"My actions are my only true belongings. I cannot escape the consequences of my actions. My actions are the ground upon which I stand." Thich Nhat Hanh
On the flip side I was taking drugs for depression and hypertension before I left W. I was convinced that heredity had done me in and I had zero hope for control over that. Now I am fit, happy healthy and taking nothing. Don't need it. Hmmmm
Yep, I tried an antidepressant once (which for me was a huge deal), I had a panic attack and was crying for 12 hours and contemplated suicide. That was the end of that. I went on to exercise every day no matter what, some therapy and eating really healthy/taking omega oils. I am NOT saying this is the antidote for everyone but perhaps more often than is utilized.
I don't mean to get too personal but often, if one starts with medical intervention (bed-bound, drugs etc) it can actually cause more harm and lead to intervention and surgery. I done a lot of research on this and I don't purport to know more than doctors, I just have seen how the way patients are handled can lead to serious problems. I have no idea in your case.
Not too personal at all and I completely agree. Was a short cord around baby's neck, mom and baby were in serious distress. But how did drugs and breaking her water way early factor in? Who knows for sure. I do know that they were trying unsuccessfully to put fluids back during the distress.
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
You can't know in retrospect but there are obviously some circumstances that require medical intervention, even if everything is done "right"...
Yep, once again I agree...it's been an agreeable kind of day.
I spent a decade on the holistic anti everything vegan end of the spectrum as well as time on the my body and the earth are garbage dumps and ashtrays end and I find that somewhere in the middle just works best for me. Funny how that works
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
I spent a decade on the holistic anti everything vegan end of the spectrum as well as time on the my body and the earth are garbage dumps and ashtrays end and I find that somewhere in the middle just works best for me. Funny how that works
Same here, vegan and everything! Now, I make the healthiest choices I can within reason.