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Don't be affraid to ask questions. It's really important to learn about what is happening.

Don't let Mach1's register date fool you. He has been at this for a very long time, and he has been a HUGE help to me.

It takes time to get in the groove. You will get there.

Holler at me if you need anything.


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I don't post much, Mach, Jack and Trapt can tell you that.

What I will tell you is this. Right now, NOTHING you will do is right. So don't beat yourself up. Eventually, when her anger dies down, you will start to see some changes.

Two quotes I want to give you, one from Jack, one from Mach. Jack once posted its not a matter of whether or not you can save your marriage, its whether or not you want to, or something to that effect. It will be on how you handle this.

Mach frequently states that you will not see the effects of what you do today, on this date. It will come in the future.

Read everything you can man. And don't overthink.


Im still standin better than I ever did looking like a true survivor feeling like a little kid Im still standin after all this time and Im picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind..

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Hey MI
Well I live in Girard \:\)
Wow small world! Congrats on getting out of Erie!
At least you missed the 145 inches of snow so far this year.


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Been here off and on since 06.
PA Confirmed Dec 08..
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Just wanted to give you a quick shout. Don't be apprehensive about jumping on other peoples threads. That's a good way to develop a friendship while walking through the valley man. Sometimes they need a boost and in return will give you one when you need it.

Stay strong my man. I'm gonna let Mach1 give you his advice about being the faithful farmer.


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What's up Cleve??

I think that may be your new nickname. The Tigers are gonna bounce back man. Just wanted to give you a holler before I stare at the back of my eyelids.

So hows things?


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Cleve. I like that. I've been called a lot worse.

How am I doing? Pretty well. I've stayed away from the boards for a couple days.

Just reading reading reading. Things make a lot more sense now.

I have really moved away from analyzing everything she says and does. I talked to her Thurs night and told her that I support her but I need to keep my distance. She said that when she's ready to talk, she will come to me. She also said that the time away she has realized that I have nothing to do with what she's going through.

She came over today to spend time with the kids. I left the house so the kids could have her full attention. After she left my S told me how all she talked about with them was things she did during her childhood and her Grandpa that died in October which was when her A began.

Again today when I saw her she looked sloppy. No makeup, just wearing t-shirt and jeans. She talks about how she only sleeps well one or two nights a week.

The last couple times I've interacted with her, I don't like her very much. I know it's not her so I'm not giving up but it certainly makes it a little easier to distance myself and not think about her so much.

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Hey,

Sounds like you have a good handle on things. Trying to figure out crazy behavior will drive you crazy, thats good you have the anlayzing thing in check.

Sounds like she is doing some thinking as well. Keep your guard up a bit still. Their mind tends to change like the wind.

You got the idea, the less she can place the reason for her feeling this way on you the better. Be patient, it's a marathon not a sprint.


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Just a quick update of the past few days. Part I Sunday

W came over to see the kids on Sunday. I left the house so she could focus her attention on the kids since when I'm there she seems to follow me around like a puppy dog. She told me that she was going to stay until 4:30. I got back to the house at 3:30. Like clockwork she stopped what she was doing with the kids and tried carrying on a conversation. I removed myself by going outside to rake leaves. 5 minutes later she comes out and said she had to go back to work. I say fine whatever. My S told me that right after I went outside she said she had to leave. Hmmm...temper tantrum because I wouldn't pay attention to her?

Later that evening she tells me that she's not happy because I made our girls tell that my W had with them (I didn't)and that I was trying to pry into her life. I simply stated, "I'm sorry you feel that way."

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Seems to be good.

You're pretty upset and angry about all this BS, right?

Is any of that anger directed at her?

You can use anger to protect yourself, just don't use it to lash out at her or sharpen your words with her.



Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis

Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans

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I let it get to me when I talked to her on Monday. She continued saying I was trying to pry into her life and that she didn't know if she could forgive me for that. I validated her feelings and I didn't try to defend myself because I knew she would believe what she wants to believe.

I stayed calm but I told her that true friends forgive. You wanted to try and build this friendship but it is only good for you when it meets your needs. I feel I am the only one giving to this friendship so I need to distance myself because I keep getting hurt by it.

I saw her both Tuesday and Wednesday and she was as i have now affectionately dubbed as the "Ice Queen". I continue to be upbeat when I see her though. I know it's not truly who she is but man I don't like her when she's in that persona.

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