When she went up to take a nap did she think you would follow her? At least she is talking about it and being flirty.
Why am I feeling anxious today? Last night I felt good after talking to H, but today I have the old knot in the stomach? Should I have said anything differently to H on the phone?
Relax. Appreciate. Be calm. Laugh. Enjoy. Be secure. Be loving. Be loved. Don't personalize. Don't ASSume. Accept. Be grateful.
Lee - when she went to take her nap did you ask if she wanted you to join her? I think you could have done that in a very casual way.
Hard to know if she just got too tired to follow through on her promises, or if she thought YOU didn't want to (waiting for you to initiate?). But her flirting with you and talking about it is good. Next time she does it, try picking up your end of the rope very gingerly!
hi Lee ~ I agree with Holdingon and Ellie - the flirting and talking are good I think. I also feel like "picking up your end of the rope very gingerly" at a time like that would be good to try. Also, are you so sure your 180 isn't doing anything? You feel less rejected, and she's flirting and talking about intimacy....? Baby steps? You're doing great, as usual! Hang in there!
Mockers2
"Somehow we survive, and tenderness frustrated does not wither." Dennis Brutus, South African poet
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
Friedrich Nietzsche
Hi Lee, Is your W usually passive or assertive about her sexual desires?
My W is very passive and what you described would have been her way of expressing her interest and initiating. Sometimes I wanted to "work" at it a little more so I wouldn't bite and her mood would fizzle. Later, she would become resentful because she felt refected while all I wanted was for her to take a bolder approach.
Not sure if she wanted you to follow her up for a "nap". If it were me, I would have invited my H to join me if I were trying to drop hints. Maybe she is trying to see if you will initiate when she just flirts. If your goal is not to initiate at all (which I think it is...) then you are doing great. She will see that she has to be a little more aggressive next time!!
You are doing a great job with a very touchy (no pun intended) subject!
Happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder.... (thoreau)
My W and I are woking on ways to put more frequency and excitment back into our sex life. Together we bought a book "101 Grrreat Quickies" by Laura Corn. Every page(or coupon as they are called) in the book is sealed shut. There are 50 coupons for "her" and 50 coupons for "him" to open, read, and then present to your S. Your spouse then has 7 days to "cash in" the coupon.
Our first quickie entitled "Charrrrge" had us both laughing our asses off as I accidentally drew blood from my W after I cut her lip with my flying hands. We finally settled down and got back to cashing in on the coupon.
In the latter stages of our M, I feel as though our sex life came to a point of feeling a little awkward as yours seems to be right now. With these coupons, it feels as though the awkwardness and pressure are being removed because we are both following the same game plan from the coupon.
Previously, my W and I were both a little shy in the area of sex talk. In order to help piece our M back together properly, we are both now willing and able to share our sexual needs and desires. I can't begin to tell you how much more relaxing and exciting having sex with my W is now, with or without the "coupons".
If you and your W are willing to discuss your sex life together, then maybe it's time for both of you to throw away the old sex life and begin with a new one.
- Mark
What goes around, comes around.
My sitch: "Third time's a charm?"
So today I went and worked out and noticed Im starting to get buff and I like that . Anyway my W iniated last night which was so very nice. More later today.
Sounds like good news...just checking in to say hi!!
Happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder.... (thoreau)
Ok so im updating now. Things are going really well, W seems to be more involved emotionally now that she has in a long time. We are talking a little more, and she is now starting to accept my Inaiting a little bit of intimacy. Im still doing the 180 where I don't iniate really but last night I did and things heppened. So I will go back to just being cool and let things go. I will let her iniate next time. Which I think might be soon. She seems to be more open to that kind of stuff. So I guess it is working. We don't fight nearly as much as we used to. I think we both have realized that gets us no where. When we do have a argument it is normally about things that need to be argued about. So that is nice. Aside from money issues things have been going well.
We finally settled down and got back to cashing in on the coupon. 
. Anyway my W iniated last night which was so very nice. More later today.