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(((JWS)))it sort of seems like all this came out of left field. she is very lonely and is scared. you sound like you really stood your ground and didnt get into it with her.

she is very confused.

i think space and time like you said is best at this point.

she is under a lot of stress and just doesnt know where to turn.

hope you are doing ok ....


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its official we have separate phone accounts and each got the iphone.

we talked briefly today, i said happy anniversary and she kind of blew me off but then later she said it, so ok that was nice. Then we texted a while about our new toys.

i feel very empty. Kind of like a shell of my self. Hopefully its just the sadness of today being a wonderful day that was not at all how I ever pictured an anniversary. Funny thing. I can picture our 1st and 3rd but i have no idea what we did for our 2nd. We were happy then and I can't remember, maybe this one will soon fade into the unknown as well.


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It's your anniversary...you have a right to feel sad, given everything. You'll bounce back. It will pass. \:\)

Congratulations on your phone. How did you get yours before I got mine?!?! Grrr!

BTW, I had a great run/workout today. We should swap good running music iPhone suggestions. What kind of music do you like?


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I was suprised about the phone too, I walked in and they just happen to have a few in stock.

I am a country guy, although its a good thing that I love rock as well since my life has turned into a country song. \:\)

latly I have not run to music just the voices in my head. basicly I run untill I am so tired or hurting I can not longer think about things then I know it was a good run.


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Hi JWS

To me it sounds as if your wife is feeling quite isolated right now (admittedly a lot is of her own making) but you want to encourage her ties to her family. They will be what keeps her grounded. My advice to you would be to keep away from her family and not get involved too much. If you do see them try to respect her and your privacy (which you have been doing a great job with until now it sounds like). If someone is feeling isolated often they will lash out, in a way it is a compliment that she feels relaxed enough with you to be angry but at the same time you were part of the cause of her anger by your actions. At least you know what not to do for the future hey \:\)

Glad you are enjoying your iphone. What is the battery like on those things? I'm upgrading my phone soon too.


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maybe this question is better for the infaildetly fourm but I am not sure what to do with my feelings. I don't know for sure anything. All I have is strong cirmenstancal evidance. My fear of this in the past has been a problem for her and may have just crated more problems. I am so trapped between the two sides of mind. I want to trust her and just detach and leave her to her self but I can't shake the tears or sickness in my stomach.



Although I can not shake it right now. I have not made any thing worse. I am going to get some distance between her family and I have only spoken to her when she called about her phone. Then we tested a bit yesterday when I got mine I feel really empity and num.


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JWS,
I keep telling myself that it doesn't matter if W is faithful or not, I love her and I'm working on me and on this M. Then, I don't let my thoughts go down that path.

One thing I'm dealing with right now which I think is talked about in DR is that I'm starting to see some changes that could be positive changes. That tiny little bit of hope has also opened to door to the angry room and a little bit has escaped. I suspect this is very common for the LBS to push the anger aside while DBing and fighting to save things and then when the efforts start to bear fruit, the anger at their hurt comes rushing back to the forefront.

I mention that because whether my W is faithful or not, her behavior has been unacceptable and hurtful to me and some how there has to be a reckoning with my feelings. That reckoning may never include her, I don't know, but, it's something of which you should be aware.

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Originally Posted By: JWS
I am a country guy, although its a good thing that I love rock as well since my life has turned into a country song. \:\)


Ain't that the truth. I like some country--older stuff like Johnny Cash, and Poncho and Lefty (Merle Haggard and Willy Nelson) cause that was what my H was into. Johnny Cash might have some good stuff to run to, or more like gallop to ; ), like "Jackson":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELpk3NfqIg4

But if you like rock, do you like hard rock?

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maybe this question is better for the infaildetly fourm but I am not sure what to do with my feelings. I don't know for sure anything. All I have is strong cirmenstancal evidance. My fear of this in the past has been a problem for her and may have just crated more problems. I am so trapped between the two sides of mind. I want to trust her and just detach and leave her to her self but I can't shake the tears or sickness in my stomach.


Yeah, it sucks. I still feel sick to my stomach sometimes, but my overall attitude is that our old R is over and if my H dates anyone else now, it's not really any different than someone he dated before we met. I know you and your W were HS sweethearts, so it might be more of a challenge to think of it that way, but I've found that it erases a lot of my jealousy and hurt feelings to remember that we aren't together right now. We're "broken up". Does that make sense?


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How are you JWS? got anything nice planned for the weekend? How's work going?


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Hi julia

Work is good right now. Real nice pace and only 8 hour days. I am thinking of heading to San fransisco to meet up with a friend. No real plays just hanging out. How about you?

By the way let me say again I love this iPhone. Every one needs one.


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