Thanks KS. I did mention spiritual warfare back in the newcomers post. Don't remember which one. It was part of the homily for one of the Masses I went too.
Thanks for the link on west side. I tried to check it out, but it blow out the browser on the video. I'll try it again later.
BTW, they are fundamentally flawed in their theology. In the salvation section. They state.
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We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works.
Wrong. We are saved by grace alone, which is by our faith and through our works.
Early Church Father, Clement of Rome wrote in 96 AD.
And we, therefore…are not justified of ourselves or by our wisdom or insight or religious devotion or the holy deeds we have done from the heart, but by that faith by which almighty God has justified all men from the very beginning (ch. 32:4).
He also wrote.
We should clothe ourselves with concord, being humble, self-controlled, far removed from all gossiping and slandering, and justified by our deeds, not by words (ch. 30:3).
WOW! maybe I should read more of his stuff.
Am I gossiping about my wife on this board?
Irenaeus, a Western Father, in his writings, Against Heresies, Book I, confirms the necessity of a life of love and holiness, as well as keeping our Lord's commandments in order to receive eternal life:
But to the righteous and holy, and those who have kept his commandments and have remained in his love…he will by his grace give life incorrupt, and will clothe them with eternal glory (ch.10:1).
Yes, my I am an amateur theologian.
I am amateur about many things. DB being one of them. Dealing with my wife.
The bad part is that when it does occur, you spin out of control and do things you shouldn't, and think things you shouldn't.
How do you know that she is trying to drive you nuts?
You give her far too much credit, honestly she probably doesn't care right now, that is why she does some of the things she does, because she really doesn't care anymore.
She is angry and hurt and fed up with the way things used to be, she has put her foot down, and she has reached her breaking point.
Give the Woman her space, let her vent. Listen to her words, validate them but don't patronize her. Let her see that she has something of value to share. Don't defend yourself.
There can be no testimony without a test. I am praying to go through this test and come out the other end with a new and better marriage then before.
Thanks KS. I did mention spiritual warfare back in the newcomers post. Don't remember which one. It was part of the homily for one of the Masses I went too.
Thanks for the link on west side. I tried to check it out, but it blow out the browser on the video. I'll try it again later.
BTW, they are fundamentally flawed in their theology. In the salvation section. They state.
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We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works.
Wrong. We are saved by grace alone, which is by our faith and through our works.
"It is by Grace you have been saved, through Faith- and not from yourselves, it is a gift from God!" Ephesians 2:8
That's where the sentence ended.
Says nothing about works.
You are getting off task again and thinking you know all there is to know about the Word is very dangerous. Taking something written by man - even if he is claiming to expound on the Word - is even more dangerous.
Get the Bible.
Pick a scripture.
Translate it backwards to it's original language.
Find out about the time the words were spoken and to whom they were spoken. That's the best way I have ever found to get to the heart of God's Word.
If you are going to grab onto something, make sure it's solid.
There is only ONE Rock.
Phil, consider this: If you don't move for some kind of legally binding agreement regarding the kids (it can simply be an agreement that you and your wife sign in front of a notary) you are liable to find yourself in a position of defense against your wife and in-laws in a courtroom. Take that warning for what it's worth to you but don't stick your head in the sand.
And don't be so foolish as to think your wife needs you for childcare if nothing else.
A written agreement signed by both parties is enforceable in a court should worse come to worse but meanwhile, you would be protected against outside interferance which I think could be on the horizon.
And don't be so foolish as to think your wife needs you for childcare if nothing else.
This is a double negative. So what are you getting at? Are you saying she needs me for more than childcare? Right she needs me to continue paying her car insurance, health insurance, and the vehicle.
Interesting note. I did drop off the kids to the grandparents. Because thats is where they wanted to be. They wanted to play with there cousin. Even more interesting is the fact that my FIL was working on the car. I was standing there, and he asked SIL if he did the brakes on her van last year. I said yes you did Dad I remember you telling me you did it. He asked front or back. I said back.
I'm thinking. Yeah some drunk with a hell of a good memory.... Whatever!
I said you better check your other daughters brakes. She doesn't talk to me, but I'm sure they need done. Two ton vehicle and she drives like a loon. Those disc brakes don't hold up on the Explorer the way she drives.
Him and I talked about some other things. Then I also slipped in there about being tired of his daughter acting like a loon. I said I'm trying to make things easy on her, but she will not even talk with me. I said whatever Dad. I'm F'n sick of it. She can blow up. She is crazy.
He didn't know what to say, but we changed the subject and started talking about jeeps and stuff.
Amy really I would love to have some kind of written agreement, but I don't even know what it would say. If the woman would talk to me about life and the kids then we could have some kind of agreement.
The schedule is dictated by her work schedule. Which changes every week and is sporadic. Now school is starting soon. She didn't even tell me if the kids are going to our school or the school where she lives. Where she moved you could throw a stone a the other towns elementry school. Where I live now. Our elementry school is right at the end of my road, 2/10th's of a mile.
Which brings up another intersted topic. She venom spewed me the other night about school clothes. Then last night when I followed her home, she purchased clothes. I asked her if she wanted any money for them, and she said she didn't know.
It's like the bed story. I'm taking the beds. I'm not taking the beds, I don't want you to cry. I taking the beds, venom. Go buy beds. Give me the receipt. Can you pick up the beds? She was going to pay now. (BONKERS!)
I'm willing to do anything to make this easier on her and me. I don't want to live day to day like this.
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There is only one rock.
That is right Amy we have been over this. Orginal Aramic. KEPHAS! LARGE ROCK! Matthew 16
You are the Kephas and on that Kephas I will build my Church.
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Bind and loose.
Keys are a symbol of authority. Isaiah 22. Vacancy in office. Keys of the House of David.
The One True Christian Church is Catholic.
Paul went and conferred with the Kephas. He didn't go to anyone else. He went to authority. Kephas=PETER
Peter was the first Pope.
Ambrose would also say: "Without the support of faith good works cannot stand" (On the Duties of the Clergy, 2, 7).
Reformers of the sixteenth century better understood the tenets of the Christian Faith than these early Christian teachers?
NOT!
Revelation 2 19 "I know your works, your love, your faith, service, and endurance, and that your last works are greater than the first. 20 yet I hold this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, who teaches and misleads my servants to play the harlot and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her harlotry.
You can read the rest...
Sorry girlfriend. The bible is divinely written, and you do not have any authority to interpret it. Unless that interpretation is from the Holy Spirit.
For you were once in darkness, but now you are in the light in the Lord. Ephesians 5:8
Hellfire and damnation. You haven't seen nothing yet.
Are you Jezebel???? Or is my wife Jezebel?
You think we are off track... I think we are on track.
What I really liked about the message is the realization that we do indeed deal with spiritual warfare on a daily basis, and realizing that, changes how we approach the issues we face daily.
For instance, the boss from hell, isn't from hell but is influenced by hell so instead of spouting off at him, we pray.
Very good message all around. Hope you enjoy it.
....Understand, that I can't, not be what I am I'm not the milk, and Cheerios in your spoon ~ Avril Lavigne ~ ..."Nobody's Fool"...
Augustine of Hippo (AD 354-430) St. Augustine, a Latin Father, taught that righteousness consists of doing good works:
How speedily are the prayers of people who do good works heard! For it is precisely in fasting, alms, deeds and prayer that our righteousness in this life consists (In Ps. 42 Enarr. I, 8).
But Augustine made the critical distinction that Paul made, that Luther refused to make:
We do the works, but God works in us the doing of the works (De Dono Perseverentiae, 13, 33).
Somebody has to be right, I would rather be happy.
Sorry sister, we are saved by Grace alone, through our faith and by our works.
