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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
Phil,

Your post to Jadn absolutely floored me.

I am glad to see that you heard what we have been saying.

Thanks.


Ditto Phil, excellent post over there. WOW......


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Well I ran right over...

And Phil's post did absolutely rock.

Right up to this part:

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Here are the rules, you have to live by them, but I don't, and I can change the rules whenever I feel like it.


Ok.




Well... at the risk of receiving one of Phil's scathing replies...




BAAAHHHAAAAAAAA LOL!!!!

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I don't know Amy, I know with my W I certainly felt the same way as Phil.

By the way, a second post by Phil and again very nice.


Our boy is growing up Amy


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I am hoping that he was being funny.



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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
I am hoping that he was being funny.


I was thinking he was being honest about how it feels sometimes and expressing it...

Hell Jack, you have felt that way with your W right?


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AmyC,

I think you are misinterpretting that sentence. That is my wife speaking. My wife makes the rules, I have to live by them. However the rules do not apply to me for I am the wife, and I can change those rules whenever I deem necessary because I'm a woman.

Woman can change their minds at the speed of thought. Men pretty much make a decision, weigh the pro's and con's, apply newtons law to it, some astrophysical properties, green slime, pbr blast, and maybe some peanut butter and stick to it.

Well something must be working. Because last night I didn't journal, but I talked to her for ahwhile on the phone. I even sat on her couch for about five minutes, and I did get a hug and kissed her on the lips.

Now today she brings the kids by after work, and the kids do not want to get out. However her and I have a pleasant conversation, and I speak softly to her. I did give her some truth juice though.

I told her that our cousin emailed me like three times asking if it would be ok for him to stay with me for ahwile. I said I'm not going to say no to you, but it isn't going to help my situation. I said wife how can I deal with his wife, his kids, our kids, and us.

She said why does he want to move in with you. I said well she came back home because her lease is up at the end of July. She moved back and is fighting with him like crazy, and telling him to leave. She says she isn't leaving again. I mean he doesn't give me the details, but I told him that he should have never told her that it was an option for him to move in with me. She texted him today and said you better make arrangements with your cousing Phil to move in with him. I said wife, I told him if she is the unhappy one she should leave.

A little truth zinger, and it went well.

We talked some more, and it seemed like she didn't want to leave. She backed out real slow, and then straighted the car, stopped again. Looked at me, laughed because I did something funny. Then she drove away slowly and beeped.

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Quote:
I think you are misinterpretting that sentence. That is my wife speaking. My wife makes the rules, I have to live by them.


My bad.
It didn't read that way.

I still thank you for the laugh, though.

I needed it.

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No, I'm being honest. It a constant double standard with my wife. I can go to the bar, but you can't. I can drink with my friends, but you can't. I can stay out as late as I want but you can't. I can call you and not get back to you, but you better not do that to me. I can watch half naked men on tv, but you can't watch half naked woman. I can go to the store for hours, but you can't. I can come into your house and use everything and do my laundry without you knowing it, but you can't even come into my place. I can have a picture of someone famous I have a crush on on my phone, but you can't. I can mess up my home improvement project by scratching something, but you can't. ETC... etc... etc...

I mean I could go on and on how controlling it was. Yes I fought back.

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I'm in this big house. It's dark. It's quiet. It's peaceful. I'm alone. You know it is kind of nice. I don't have to worry about kids needing something. I don't have to worry about her. I don't have to here the b|tching.

This is actually better. For now.

I got home from work and I just stayed in bed. I didn't have anything to do. Just homework, but reading about HTML and XHTML is just boring. Trying to get this degree is just boring. I'm in my tenth class online. I keep telling myself don't over do it. It is an endurance.

You know marriage is an endurance. Dealing with a spouse in a possible MLC is an endurance.

Did coming here speed things up? Help my stubborn a$$ learn from the wise. Paul had the Kephas.

Pray, stay in prayer. Be still tonight. Stay in the calm. Listen to the quiet. It's like hunting. Something happens when you least expect it. You get your chance.

The Phoenix from the Flame, there is no other Troy for you to burn.

Surrender, submit, change, maybe she'll return.

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Phil,

Just wanted to poke my head in and say it is good to see you seem to be doing pretty well with this and seem to really "get it" now. Once you do, it gets a lot easier. I find it has helped me a lot to share with others, experiences from my sitch...kind of a win-win. You are doing some good work.

Best Wishes


TwinDad
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W - MLC, WAW????
2 Kids B/G 3 YRS Old
Start of the Long and Bumpy Road.....
On the verge of piecing.....a new beginning
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