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Phil,

Hon, no one is arguing. Least of all me. I've learned not to argue yet simply I shall clarify in a term more readable.

UpDown & Phil

Stop looking at the words that are thrown your way. Best of all, stop throwing words thier way. It doesn't matter how many times you say things, it will be processed differently.

When someone is being annoyed or even harrased and are bombarded by questions, you don't have time to process anything, the best answer to cover all bases is "I don't Know" or "Maybe".

It doesn't mean squat. It simply means go the hell away.

Imagine being under a firing squad, 5000 watts of light shining down on you......and questions being fired at you that you simply cannot answer! Your going to say whatever it takes to get you the hell out of there.

That is human behavior. Now add MLC to it.

Sometimes you have no answer because your afraid of hurting the other party.

Maybe yes? Maybe no?

Hows about everyone be still for awhile?

Let the answers reveal themselves to you.

Keep on forcing the issue and it will turn it's back from you for good.

Hugs,

Jeanette

Nope Phil is a stupid idiot...

The only good thing is I didn't respond to her in a spazzy way.

She shows up to pick up son, I was taking D to softball. Practice. She is all nice to me and tells me that the hockey player came today and she waited on him. She said she was shaking. I pretty much said you are gay. Then we departed and everything was ok

Then after 8 my son left me a voice mail. I had no service. T text no service. Then she is texting. R U almost done.

We are en route so I call but I can't get service. I finally get service and I call her phone. She acts where I'm at. I say the road and that we are going to Arby's. She said ok I'm at your house. I said dear it is our house. Where you doing laundry. She said yeah. I said ok. She said alright then meet me at my house then alright, talk to you later bye.

Then we arrive at her place. She is unloading the explorer. She says I thought you were going to Arby's. I said we did. What were you on top of it. No I told you what road we where on. Then she says why are you being so neeby. I said I'm not I just see the autograph you got. Then I walked over and picked it up. Then I pick up some other papers. I said what is this and say oh it's work papers. Then I put them back. I said I wasn't being neeby. Then I point out a big scratch on the door of the car. I said that's nice, and she says like you almost take care of your vehicles. Then she says stop being so F'n neeby and eyeballing everything, and don't touch my autograph. I I said I'm not being neeby but its ok for you to eyeball everything in my house I mean our house when you get there.

Then I said ok son lets go because mommy is in a bad mood now and I don't want to fight with her. She kisses son. I look at her and said why are you so angry. She will not answer. I said I'm sorry I thought the papers were the poems I wrote you. Then she looks aways and walks toward the door with my daughter. She can't even look at me.

She treats me so poorly. I set myself up for it. Why couldn't I just tell her again on the phone. Do not go in the house when I'm not home unless you tell me.

When I get home my neighbor tell me she took some stuff out the house. Left and then came back in like five minutes.

Now as I'm writing this she is calling me to ask me if I have baby oraljel in the medicine cabinent D cut her lip playing softball. I said yes, because I just saw it today. She says ok I'll be right up to get it.

She just treats me like sh|t...

So she just showed up. Ringing the door bell like crazy. The door is open and she obvious knows how to come into the house. I was praying. I was praying for the softening of heart. Praying that I will have the strength to remain calm and do everything right. Praying to be still. Praying for what ever I forgot to pray about. She calls into the house. She says daughter didn't want to get out of the car can you bring it to me. I said yes one minute. The neighbor down the street had made some zuccini bread so I take some and I say would you like some. She says no who made it. I said the neighbor because I cut her grass. Is it good I said I didn't try it yet, and I'm not going to eat it all. She says no thanks. Then I hand her the oraljel. She gives me this big damn hug. She says to our son I'll call or text you later. I said ok. She sounds all sad like goodbye son.

Man I just can't stop crying. I thought I was going to loose it when I left her house the first time.

Why the hug... just let me crash....

It was bad enough I had to get holy terror from AmyC today and I know where it came from. Puppy strikes again.

I read Puppies prayer and lost it at work. I had to leave. I left the building and went for a drive. When I came back, I had to hear AmyC's rendition of forty. I would much prefer to listen to the U2 version.

Sing, sing a new song... How long to sing this song...



Th

FYI Phil, my post didn't come from anywhere but my heart.
I haven't read puppy's latest.

I simply don't want you to take the route I've taken which is only going to take you farther from grace and I'm telling you what I KNOW - if you think THIS is a fight, you ain't seen nothing yet.

It does not matter if a believer is the LBS or the WAS trying to return.

The question is the same.

"Will you submit?"

Time and again your answer has been a resounding "no".

For someone that claims to have such a religious foundation, you sure can't discern the grip of the enemy.

I've been there and ignored that, too.

Phil, if your spirit doesn't become more willing to be molded you're in for a hell of a battle.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Oh and throwing in the towel, ppffftttt....unfortunately that doesn't negate the call.

You're in this.

YOU ARE IN THIS.

Like it or not.

So here's a straw big boy...

As soon as you're ready, suck it up and pick your team.

I'll be seeing you, Phil.

Pay no attention to the road rash.

There's gonna be some for you, too.



Later

Phil Amy was pretty gentle. Sometimes those things that offend us, are the things we need to hear the most.

Good luck!!

AmyC,

I already choose my team. It's Gods team.

Do me a favor and stop the riddles. They only further confuse me. I'm beginning to think I'm not as smart as I thought I was, because really it is either gibberish and so intelligent I can't even comprehend what you are saying.

After I read your post I went into my daughters room, what was my wife and I's room, where she first said there was a ghost. I told the devil to leave, and I cast him out in Jesus's name. I prayed to Jesus to bring my family together.

KSchick are you a AmyC groupie? I don't need you to tell me that AmyC was gentle to validate gibberish.

AmyC, submit to what? Have you? Now I don't usually tell this story but when I was deep in prayer about 4 years ago. I had just done a holy hour of obligation in front of the blessed sacrament. I was driving home and I believe that the Lord asked me to take the thorns of his sacred heart into mine. I told him I wasn't ready for it yet. Two years ago, I accepted it.

Here is another thing I don't usually tell anyone. After my daughter was born I was in deep prayer. I would stop by the Church after work and pray for an hour in front of the blessed sacrament. I would get visions of Jerusalem and other holy land places. I think I have saw enough of the land that if I went there I would know where I was going. I think he was showing me the route he was walking when he walked the earth. I was with him.

Hence the sacred heart acceptance, which I told him no at the time. I said I wasn't ready for it. I felt the piercings in my own heart and I said I love you Lord.

Now this is the same love I have for my wife.

I thought at the time he was going to physically pierce my heart which is why I told him I wasn't ready. I thought he was telling me stigmata for which I said I did not want stigmata.

Reminds me of the story of Maximilian Kolbe. He was shown two crowns and he had to pick one and he choose both without doubt or hesitation.

This marriage, this family, it is bigger than me. This marriage, my marriage is only temporary. There is a larger goal.

Now everything I write is coherant, nothing you write to me is.

Please start making some sense, and maybe you can see through your own fog.

And for the last time please stop cheerleading for other people on this thread.

AmyC, I don't doubt I'm in it. It's going to be a long ride. Question is will I have the strength to do it. Will I be able to do it. How much more crap can I take.

Our marriage has always been on the rocks. I felt like ripping into her tonight when she was acting like an idiot. No wonder our marriage was on the rocks look at the way you act about the stupidest crap. So what I was looking in the explorer. She left the door open. I saw she took some things from the attic. Packing material and USPS priority boxes. Now was she spazzing out about it because she was afraid I would say not to go to the house. Was she afraid I would ask her what she was mailing? Was she getting them for someone else. Who the heck knows... No logic in it. If she was getting them for someone else I could have told her that she worrys about everybody else accept her real family. In the past during boundry stage I told her to stay the hell out of the attic if there is something she wants I will gladly give it to her. She continues to violate the boundries. Then if I say something about it, venom.

I told her to stay out of the house when I'm not home. Why can't she get her own priority boxes. Tonight she calls me about oraljel and comes and picks it up... Go get your own oraljel big girl.

And again, I go and check laundry. The only thing that was in there was her work clothes. Go do your laundry somewhere else big girl. It wasn't even worth coming to the house for that.

There is only one common denominator. Big girl doesn't want to come home yet. Sounds like someone else we know.

Is it worth it to me to cause a fight over priority boxes and oraljel. No...

Then she tops it off with an initiated hug at the doorway. I'll call or text you later. When she does text she tells me daughter past out. How is son. I wait ten mintues and text fine. She immediately text ok. (past out) I should have jammed the spelling champion for that one. She would always make fun of my spelling.

So what does Phil do now. Phil goes and prays and takes care of son. She does what she wants, and she always did.

Bless your heart, Phil.
You must be poised for big things in the Kingdom.

I actually believe that.

Because if it were not so, the devil wouldn't be so determined to make you his #1 ass.

I'm dead serious.

You should be, too.




See you 'round, Phil.

Amy

Amy,

Now should I take that as satirical wit, or you saying you are going to be on my legion. Problem is we are both too strong to be generals. I suggest you take one corner or the earth and I'll take the other.

Revelation Chapter 2 verse 2-7

See you around... is this a see you around like tomorrow or is this abandonement again. I mean you already said I was worthless.

Amy I don't think I'm worthy of breaking the seal, for whom shall I confer with. At least Paul had the Kephas to confer with. Gal 1:18

See you around... Did it get to deep for you or are you still questioning my faith.

Does any of this matter. If in fact I am poised for big things in the Kingdom, I doubt I'll even get there.

Now short term... Wife and family. She wants me to put her on a pedastal. Always did... always threw that in my face. I didn't know how. I still don't.

I'm thinking talking about her here and every little corny stupid jerk thing she does isn't putting her on a pedastal.

Hey the other night when she went to the store. I said I forgot to ask you to pick me up a bar of soap. She said she had some, and even though it took her twenty minutes and had a cockamamie story about losing her keys. I got my bar of soap. What a woman.

Now I didn't need her to pick me up a bar of soap. I could get my own soap. I just never had too in the marriage, because she took care of all the little things. All of the little things, so I could be a dreamer, a builder, a fixer, a provider, a plumber, an electrician, a dry waller, a whatever the heck a whatitdoes does.

New list... All the things I love about my wife.

#1 She took care of all the little things in life for our marriage.
#2 I always had clean clothes.
#3 There was always food in the house
#4 The house was always clean
#5 She protects the children
#6 She was a passionate lover


I think I could go on forever...

AmyC... See you around... Are you taking away the spiritual kiss?

See you around... you see I'm getting that feeling like it sounds like I'm not going to post to you anymore Phil, because you are so full of it Phil.

By the way, I never told my wife about the visions or the sacred heart story. I don't think I told anyone... I don't think I was even supposed to tell anyone now.

I take that back. I mentioned to my father in law about the visions, but I dismissed them. I said I think it is just the way the light is in that church. When I close my eyes, because I don't get them in any other church only there.

Yes maybe it is something I made myself believe. Doubting Thomas. Maybe it was just for me, and it wasn't for anyone else.

I told myself I wasn't going to post to you again, but I guess I was wrong.


That's it? She was a maid, cook, babysitter, and #6? Oh, and she did laundry? If that's how you saw here, there is no real surprise in her wanting out, Phil. Really.

That's good she took care of your little things Phil. Just out of curiosity, if you were to guess what it is about you she loved, what would you suppose that list would look like?

Phil - I'm not an Amy "groupie" but can tell you that she definitely helped me to get out of my own way.

Unfortunately you don't see the need to do that yourself and until you do, you'll keep tripping over your arrogance.

Good luck trying to "win" her back. The person you portray yourself to be here - it's no wonder she's done. Holier than thou, smarter than everyone and doesn't handle criticism well, but expects her to put up or shut up.

Sounds like a dream marriage to me