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LIS,

Are these "family friends" MUTUAL friends? Can't you just ask them?

"Transaction dates" aren't always accurate. I bet you could call the credit card company to dispute the charge, and get them to confirm the actual date for you.

Just a thought -- for TOMORROW. You've got a graduation to go to, Spidey!!!

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You are so right Pup. The big little man leaves elementary school.

Yes they are mutual friends, but either need more evidence or a better reason to call. If I am wrong and call just for that, more fuel on the inferno to deal with. I do plan on calling them at some point to chat... but again will figure that out later.


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Let me know when you're ready, as I have some ideas.

Good luck tonite -- enjoy!!

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Grad was great. What a handsome young man we have as a son.

WW was actually pleasant tonight. Really weird considering the convo last night. She looked really nice but I didn't say anything. Didn't want it to feel fake after last night. My M and S and BIL were there - WW acted like nothing was wrong.

Not sure what to think anymore - maybe thinking nothing is the way to go. Don't know why she thinks she can spew one night and be all nicey nice the next, and I am supposed to react in a good way. Can I say F that?


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Originally Posted By: lost_in_space
Grad was great. What a handsome young man we have as a son.

WW was actually pleasant tonight. Really weird considering the convo last night. She looked really nice but I didn't say anything. Didn't want it to feel fake after last night. My M and S and BIL were there - WW acted like nothing was wrong.

Not sure what to think anymore - maybe thinking nothing is the way to go. Don't know why she thinks she can spew one night and be all nicey nice the next, and I am supposed to react in a good way. Can I say F that?


LIS,

My guess is, she's done that before, and thinks all will be well with you. That's OK -- we'll deal with that false assumption later. ;\)

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Quick update.

Well, MC was a false alarm. Saw the actual receipt.

OMW and I have established e-mail contact this evening.


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OK, new day.

Have exchanged a couple e-mails with OMW. At least I think it is - have to make sure it is not OM accessing OMW e-mail. Just seems strange for her to ask "Anything I should know?" in her last e-mail. Need more validation.

Thinking about yesterday for a moment - really was weird given the convo and sitch on Sunday night. Pup, I take your point - she thinks I will simply not want to rock the boat and not mention it anymore. He*l, have done that before, too many times in trying to be the nice guy. BUT now the chains are off and the fight begins (she will realize that soon, especially if/when she hears of me contacting OMW).

Anyway, after a small bump in the road yesterday with me, I see that I am really no worse off than I was a couple weeks ago, despite what was said. We are both still at home, still in the same bed, still talking (although yesterday was about small stuff) and still being a family. In fact, I really felt good about ME last night after the grad (did I say S13 was a handsome young man? oh yeah, guess I did...). Talked to folks that I have not talked to for a while (even had a good chat with the mom of D16 friend - mom just finished chemo and is feeling great, but I have never talked to her about that).

My resolve to see this to the end, whatever that may be, is actually getting stronger with incidents / discussions like Sunday. I believe very little of what I hear and half of what I see. The half of what I see to believe includes taking family pictures last night and her still being in the same house (although she may be hoping for me to get fed up and leave - she has minimal income to support herself - FFC of that because I am a "stubborn Ukrainian" after all).

Oh yeah, and she started telling me of somewhere she has to go in Sept - so again, we are looking down the road, albeit in a small way.

Anyway, should get to work. Will be here thoughout the day, but since not as bummed out as yesterday, best get at it!


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Kinda got caught up with you.

You and I are a lot alike, it seems. I told roomie this weekend that I have learned to weed through all the spew she throws and that I know that sometimes things just come out of her mouth out of frustration. She admitted this as true.

As you know, I sometimes react to an event the occurs between us, and then I continue the fight after giving it some thought. Like me, you take the "normal" days and continue on. Enjoying the family days.

Maybe it is right. Maybe it is wrong.

If they come back to us, then we know it was what was right for us.


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Lost,

You need to contact OM's wife on the phone, or in person -- not via e-mail.

Why don't you think of some excuse to call family friends up east, and thank them "for being such a good host for my wife for two nights," and see what they say?

Looks like you got some work to do. Let us know how it goes, and how we can help.

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Puppy,

Here is OMW latest response to me:

"I never get any questions answered lately. Too many to figure out. What exactly did your wife tell you about their relationship cause I keep hearing they are only old "friends". I know its not true but what can I prove?"

I agree that the e-mails will stop. Will have to be by phone unless I can figure out a reason to travel 1500 miles [:-)]. I started that way to ensure I had the right person. It seems that she is sadly in a worse state of knowledge about things than I am.


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