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Wow Mike, sounds like some walls are starting to come down with your W. If she is so determined on moving forward with this I assure you she would not be making slip ups as far as calling you Hun and talking in the We sense. But of course, DO NOT get on the rollercoaster today if she totally changes her tune. You have been doing so well, keep at it. I really believe that with her saying these things, she will be even more floored tonight when you talk in friendship terms.

Remember, you have been detaching, what one will do if they feel you are moving on is test the waters to see if you are still in the pond swimming for them, if they realize you are still there swimming, they will move back up the creek to hibernate for a while longer until they feel the need to come back in and check on the status of their prey. She may be doing this, have no expectations at all and you will get buy with it, she will also starting coming to swim around more often if she feels her prey is taking off running down the creek. Good luck tonight.

Well, little disappointed as I type this. After work I went to work out and then got a call from W. "I'm sick, don't think i can do MC tonight" I told her I understood, ask her if I could do anything for her and if she needed me to skip the app. She said no, go and keep app.

I called MC and she said that since she had seen me last week and I sounded like I was doing fine that we could just reschedule. next app. I could get would be 5-15..MC said if my W is a no show again then we would just do IC..

Now, question for me, Is W really sick? Is the thought of MC making her sick or worried and she's not going?? 2 apps. skipped in a row by W..Not good.

Mike, I am going to tell you like I told R2C today, my W and I went to one session early on in our sitch, looking back it did no good whatsoever, it was too early, her walls were to high and she was not going to hear anything that she didn't want to hear. This may be your W right now that's why I was hoping she would go and you turn the tables on her because I believe that would have kept her in it longer for you.

Don't jump to conclusions, she may really be sick.

Do me a favor, check out Jerry161 post out "Calling for Support" he is not getting much feedback and needs some pick me up.

Ok more slight developments. GL if your out there feel free to comment. First off, when I got home last night, W on couch, looking pale, upset stomach, bad headache. She was a little out of sorts because I did not keep the MC app. yesterday for myself. "she mentioned that I said I would go without her" and I explained that I was feeling great, was in a good place and the MC and I, over the phone, decided I did not need to come in.

Now for the confusing part. Yesterday I sent my W an email. I have 4WD that I am ahving repaired this week. I need to pick it up on Saturday between 8:00am -12:00pm, that's the only time the shop is open. I asked my W if she could take me over to get it. She replied back that she could but it would have to be early, early because she was supposed to be with her mom from 8am-2pm??
Now, why 8-2?? Why not just say, I'm going to be with mom saturday?? 8-2 sounds like an appointment. another thing, W hates to get up early on Sat or Sun...she hates it but seems ok doing it this Saturday.

Being the detective I'm trying to be..I start thinking..HMMM. weight gain, no period, feeling sick, wearing baggy clothes..think she might be preggo??? Think she might have an appointment on Sat. 8-2 to take care of preggo sitch?? Don't know.. Why 8-2??? Says she is meeting MIL at her house for coffee, then an Interior designer is coming over to look at MIL's house, then shopping after?? but why 8-2??

Looks like I'll be busy this Saturday boys...

GL---comments??? and speak freely..you too Ping and anyone else.

I don't think it matters what I think, just be careful this weekend when you are snooping and don't do anything you will regret later. I agree something is wrong with her physically, and I agree an appointment with Mom is very odd in deed. Let us know what you find and although I don't think it is the best idea, you have to do what you have to do.

Good luck and enjoy the weekend!

Not sure what time you usually eat, but if she eats early tonight and then has nothing but water before leaving to pick up the car, I think your suspicions are correct.

Not gone back over whole thread, but weren't you pretty sure no A ? If so, is it possible that it would be yours ? If so, shouldn't you be party to this decision ?

Tough one to play TBH, you could address it, be completely wrong and would be a major Backslide. Need Sandi and a mod for advice here I think.


GL mate

Good point A. You are correct, no hard evidence of an A. Good tip on the food and water. I'll watch for that. I may be barking up the wrong tree but why tell me 8-2?? That's odd. Why give up your sat. mornings when you never ever give them up??
No nooky since Dec. for me. I would think after 4 months it would be too late to do anything? Not for sure about that.

GF, I do care what you think. You're right, you have to do what you have to do.

I think less than 20 weeks you still can, but google it, you'll find out for sure on that front.

Really not sure what to say as it's a really tough one. All I can do is give my opinion and if it were me, I would want to know. You might not be able to change your W mind, but if it were yours, you should have the right to at least discuss it with her (IMO).

Thing is, I would of thought you would have seen info, websites visited or numbers on the cell bill (I'm sure you said you'd done the detective work), so could be completely wrong.

Whre is D2 on Sat morning ? as if she if with W, she might be where she is. Maybe her Mum has a private app and needs your W there by 8 to drive her somewhere

Well Mike, I'm not sure what to say about this. If your suspicians are right then that would explain alot about her actions right now. How long has the sickness been going on? You stated she has weight gain also, remember that everyone handles stress in different ways, some stop eating and others start eating more. I would do snooping tomorrow morning, I would have to know this answer.

I can tell you when I was reading what you wrote, the first thing I thought of when your W said she was with MIL from 8-2 was basically because she was trying to take control of the day from you and making you go and get 4WD on her terms, not yours. This was just my impression until I got further into the thread.

Obviously keep us posted on this, stay strong.