Uhm, just a possibly inappropriate interjection here...
I think Jesus established some pretty significant boundaries to be honest.
There is NO WAY to the Father but by me...
If you would follow me you must take up your cross and die to self...
I think I understand what you were trying to get at, but Jesus certainly doesn't teach us that we are free to live our lives any old way we please and still have the guarantee of eternal life with him one day.
There are standards in every walk of life.
Blessings,
bill
"Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon."
Uhm, just a possibly inappropriate interjection here...
I think Jesus established some pretty significant boundaries to be honest.
There is NO WAY to the Father but by me...
If you would follow me you must take up your cross and die to self...
I think I understand what you were trying to get at, but Jesus certainly doesn't teach us that we are free to live our lives any old way we please and still have the guarantee of eternal life with him one day.
There are standards in every walk of life.
Blessings,
bill
No, this was about how He accepted sinners and he did not put stipulations on them nor did he force them to follow Him either.
He accepts everyone and this is what I was getting at. We all sin and yet we feel that we must put forth rules/regulations, etc. in order to allow a spouse to come back home.
All Jesus asks is that we accept Him as your personal savior and repent.
The Bomb: 08/05 H moves out: 06/2006 H moves back: 01/07 & Out again: 01/07 H moves back: 03/08 & Out again: 04/08 H moves back: 05/09 & Out again: 07/09 Divorced 08-12 Kids: 22, 20, 19
This could turn out to be quite a debate and I do not want to start a firestorm which is why I said what works for one household may not work for another.
The Bomb: 08/05 H moves out: 06/2006 H moves back: 01/07 & Out again: 01/07 H moves back: 03/08 & Out again: 04/08 H moves back: 05/09 & Out again: 07/09 Divorced 08-12 Kids: 22, 20, 19
"but Jesus certainly doesn't teach us that we are free to live our lives any old way we please and still have the guarantee of eternal life with him one day."
Funny you should mention this because there is a debate amongst Christian circles about this very thing.
Many think that once you are saved and have accepted Christ, that even though they sin, they are still saved.
It is one of those debates that can make your head spin!!
The Bomb: 08/05 H moves out: 06/2006 H moves back: 01/07 & Out again: 01/07 H moves back: 03/08 & Out again: 04/08 H moves back: 05/09 & Out again: 07/09 Divorced 08-12 Kids: 22, 20, 19
I would call that a worthless Christianity SF. If the best one can do with the gift of salvation is use it as a license for any behavior at all, well it wasn't much of a salvation.
Paul says, "Everything is permissible; but not everything is beneficial." Some may take this to mean that God grants us the right to do whatever we like. I believe this is true only to the extent that God does indeed allow us free choice in our lives. But clearly there are decisions that we could make that would put us outside of God's desire for the way we live our life.
As for the rest, you're right. This could be one whale of a debate and I'd hate to be responsible for ruining a thread.
I will just say that I do not believe that Jesus would welcome us in if we intended to still live as non-believers. Yes, we all sin. But we also all try to live godly lives. There is NO parallel here to the viscious and hurtful things these spouses have done. They are NOT mistakes. They were decisions that were made, knowing full well the pain and destruction they would cause.
I do believe that Jesus told the rich young ruler who proclaimed his desire to follow Him that he would be unable to, in part because the rich young ruler refused to give up those things in his life that he enjoyed more.
There's your parallel to this MLC mess.
Blessings,
Bill
"Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon."
Look not mournfully into the past. It comes not back again. Wisely improve the present. It is thine. Go forth to meet the shadowy future, without fear. {Henry Wadsworth Longfellow}