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MMC Buddy,

Man reading you reply sounded like something I would have wrote years ago. And the computer dog date thing surprises me I did not say that. It is something I would have normally has done. But I think part if my problem may have been that for the last few years W has conditioned me by trying to justify her lack of compassion. What I mean is something I would have said or done years ago that would have made her laugh, now became "stupid". Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like when you are with a buddy and he calls you a jerk you may call him one back or just laugh and it's over. BUT if you went to the store and a stranger called you a jerk you would not take it so well.
I have noticed that in the not so far past when we talked on the phone it was short and sweet. And when she talked to others on the phone she was allot friendlier... She is starting to talk to me like that now. I know I have said this over and over that I am getting tired of holding on. What worries me is that I have been getting though all of this by saying "ok I will wait until after son starts school, or "I will wait until after Christmas"
Then what has gotten me to this point is "I will wait until after my vacation". Well that is 7 days away... I am nervous (I have never been away by myself). And I think I may be a little scared because this means that it will be time for the R talk when it is over. I can't easily think of anymore "excuse" I will wait until......time. I am trying to think of this Vacation as the start if something new... But the thought of it being the beginning of the end keeps creeping in.
Hey thanks for the "guy perspective" I think you and I are two of a kind. I could see us going out Galing having a few to many beers and getting into a little trouble.......Are you sure ya can't meet me in Vegas???????
As "Bad" as it may sound me going to Vegas It is just a place I will be sleeping. I am planning on visiting allot of places. (NO Casino’s). Ghost towns, museums, tattoo pallor, the only way I would accept a lap dance is if YOYO, Saffie, LWB, Mattie, Josie, Luv, NikB, Tal, Sues, trying, Root would show up at my door... (Ya I wish)

Later dude and thanks.

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Ok since I will be gone here is your
Monthly Forecast for February, 2008


Pisces February 19 - March 20
On the 1st, keep in mind that you're right. Whatever it is that's eating at you at work (or anywhere else), rest assured that you're in the right. This knowledge may not change the situation, but it should at least take the edge off. Wait as patiently as possible for the other party to come around to your point of view (they will). On the 5th, somebody gives you a helping hand in the morning. Thank them. The night of the 7th could bring a very welcome surprise, and things just keep getting better on the 8th and 9th. The 13th is looking like a day full of romance. Don't be surprised if you open your inbox and find all sorts of lovey-dovey missives waiting for you. On the 17th, there's even more romance in the air. Take a deep breath. Watch for the signs. Be open. On the 21st, you need to home in on some of the tougher relationship questions. What do you want? What do you really want? What do you really, really want? On the 26th, watch your back. End the month, on the 29th, knowing that, at the very least, you're absolutely, 100 percent right.

Ok the 17th is the friday before my B day, Yesterday (before I read this) Yoyo and others were saying I should take W out to dinner before I went away and I said that the 17th would be a good day. BEFORE I READ THIS.

and the 21st is the middle of my "vacaton" this is the day after my real B-day and is the day I was going to start thinking about the R talk when I get back......Before I READ THIS...


Aquarius January 20 - February 18
On the 1st, you might want to wake up and sing in the shower. You might want to sing in the car. Heck, you might want to sing at the office. Go right ahead! It will feel just right to open your lungs, fill your heart and let loose today. Don't be surprised if you discover you have quite a nice singing voice! On the 4th, discipline is your keyword. On the 5th and 6th, you're in a really high-energy kind of place. Tap into your abundant inner resources to enact some long-needed change. On the 11th, you want to chuck it all and hit the road with all your belongings tied up in a kerchief. Think it over, and go ahead (only if you really want to). On the 16th and 17th, get to the gym! Get to the personal trainer! And get to your yearly checkup! By the 21st and 22nd, you could find that you and your business associates have very different agendas. Resolve the problem if you can. On the 27th, examine a deep feeling that's emerging over and over again in the course of your day. On the 29th, finish the month with a song (out loud or in your heart).
Virgo August 23 - September 22
Maybe you want to spend the 1st and 2nd dancing all night long. Maybe you can't because you have to spend the weekend helping your Great Aunt Millie move apartments. Maybe that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't get mad -- get a good night's sleep and plan to go out dancing later in the month. On the 6th, a little experimentation goes a long way. On the 8th and 9th, you could try to reschedule your all-night-dancing outing, but if you aren't up for all night long, don't push yourself too hard. On the 14th and 15th, just do your best at work. If a higher-up is determined to be displeased, they'll be displeased no matter how great a job you do, so don't bend over so far backwards that you pull a muscle. On the 19th, why not do some backbending of a different kind -- like in yoga class? It could help your perspective. On the 23rd and 24th, if you're feeling indecisive about a purchase, ask for a trusted friend's advice. On the 28th and 29th, end the month doing a good deed.
Leo July 23 - August 22
You're in for a pretty romantic month. Starting the 1st and 2nd and continuing all month long, there's plenty of kissing in the cards for you. Add a romp through the snow and a cup or two of hot cocoa, and you have a recipe for romance on your hands! By the 6th, you and your honey bear could clash. Try not to let this put too much of a damper on your kissing. After all, cautious can be very healthy. On the 12th and 13th, it's time to focus on work. Try to put romance out of your mind -- at least until Valentine's Day. On the 17th, your intuition is right on, so listen to it. On the 19th, dress your best, because there are a lot of terrific surprises in store for you today, and you want to be dolled up for the part. On the 24th, fun and romance go hand-in-hand (and so do the two of you). Terrific! On the 29th, you're ready to wrap up the month the way you started it -- with some really fiery romance. Explore every unexplored corner, and get in plenty of kissing while you're at it.
Taurus April 20 - May 20
As this month begins on the 1st and 2nd, it's extra important that you do something extra special for yourself. Whether you spend the afternoon at the sauna or the morning with a masseuse or the evening alone at home in a bubble bath, you need to be sure you pamper yourself. Otherwise, the winter blahs could start to get you down. And that could ratchet down your productivity. And that could make you feel just generally not that great. By the 7th, you're feeling a lot more grounded. On the 11th, take your time before you make any big purchases (sofas, condos, diamond rings). There could be something better down the road. On the 14th and 15th, long-term plans could be short-sighted, so don't spend too much time laying out your five-year plan. On the 20th and 21st, don't forget the basic rule in communications: If you want them to know how you feel, you have to tell them -- in words, not emotional smoke signals. On the 26th, if you're feeling possessive, do your best to let go. By the 28th and 29th, end the month on a financially conservative note.


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H,

Lap dance huh?? you are too funny..watch out for those vegas girls!!

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Hi H - happy Friday!

Michael - I think that was a GREAT post. Especially this part:

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I'm not saying your personality is pushing your wife away! I'm saying that you may need to instill the same PMA you show on this board into your daily interactions with your wife.


This is SO true. H - I feel sometimes like you've got that PMA going with everyone EXCEPT your W. I know that feeling too. You're all happy and upbeat and then you see your W and take it down a notch (or more, depending on her mood). I tend to feel myself do the same thing at times.. I feel this transition from "happy upbeat" to "walking on eggshells." I am a lot happier and my H seems a lot more drawn to me if I KEEP that "happy upbeat" around him, but it's sometimes hard to do. I get the feeling that may be the case for you also.

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When she said "I think the dog needs to go out." I would have said "You're the one at the computer, see if you can find him a date."

Would it have gotten her into the sack with me? Hell no. She would probably grin instead of laugh (it's not very funny at all) but making a stupid/smart ass comment like that may be better than simply saying 'ok' and walking away.


Well it made me laugh hard enough that I was wishing I didn't have water in my mouth at the time.. \:\) so ya never know!

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As "Bad" as it may sound me going to Vegas It is just a place I will be sleeping. I am planning on visiting allot of places. (NO Casino’s). Ghost towns, museums, tattoo pallor, the only way I would accept a lap dance is if YOYO, Saffie, LWB, Mattie, Josie, Luv, NikB, Tal, Sues, trying, Root would show up at my door... (Ya I wish)


I REALLY don't think we'd all fit on your lap at once.. ;\)

Hey did you check out Valley of Fire at all? (did I mention it to you before?) It's an easy drive from Vegas and it is really neat!! Never seen anyplace like it before.

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Virgo August 23 - September 22
Maybe you want to spend the 1st and 2nd dancing all night long. Maybe you can't because you have to spend the weekend helping your Great Aunt Millie move apartments. Maybe that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't get mad -- get a good night's sleep and plan to go out dancing later in the month.


OK in light of the "lap dance" comment - did you make this up??


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Virgo August 23 - September 22
Maybe you want to spend the 1st and 2nd dancing all night long. Maybe you can't because you have to spend the weekend helping your Great Aunt Millie move apartments. Maybe that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't get mad -- get a good night's sleep and plan to go out dancing later in the month. .


Wow NikB,

I did not ever read yours.... No I did not make it up... I know what you two are saying.. Infact I tried to be a little silly today and I did get a smile.. but she is so stressed and concerned about getting a job.... That is the diferance between her and I. I would be happy living on the street If I would be what I needed to go for my family. Do you think she is just so secure with me staying that she is not worried about it so she is devoting her time to her job search? I know all of you have felt the same way and I know I need to put it past but I still feel like an outsider.... I can't work around this feeling I NEED to work through it.I know you all are going to say to let go of the past but how can you let go of the past when you don't have a future yet???? if you have no past and no future all you have is the present.. and that is not so hot at this time...Except for NEXT weekend...... 8 more days.....
This job less thing is really getting in the way....Part of her problem is she has a college degree.... She will not work for anything less that her "skill" leval... Me I do what ever it takes.... I can do or fix just about anything..... Except fix my marriage..... Ok enough rambaling.....got ta go. I started working on my son's tree house.... I'll post some pic's soon..

Oh yea yoyo.... it was about 68 degrees here in SUNNY Calif.....

Nothing came in the mail yet NikB

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Ya got post on the way from me and I warn you that it's noisy when you open it!!!!!!! \:D



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Cool Saffie,

Ya I am not going to sweat it anymore... going to let her see I do have friends......Ya If I win big I will defiantly fly out your way... Is there room in the stable??? And if I wear that kilt can I at least wear my man panties under it???
Do you think you husband will wonder why you are spending sooo much time with the “horse” out in the barn???

Ok I’ll stop now I am just feeling a little frisky this morning.. Oh ya last night before bed W was washing dishes and I walked up behind her put my hands on her waist and kissed her neck and said good night…..oh yea and she reminded me that I do have money in a special account that I forgot about that I can use for “spending Money” on my trip….
Today son has baseball tryouts… then I am doing some more work on his tree house and then going over MIL to do some gardening for her. (She came out side this week for the first time in a month…… She is getting better and liked what I have been doing in her yard).

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Pisces February 19 - March 20
Today, you will have such high energy that your dismally brief list of things to do will feel almost like a disappointment. But never fear -- turn your energy toward your emotions, and you will soon find that you can make a lot of progress untangling some complicated knots that have been tying your tongue and keeping you from communicating clearly to the people you love most. Concentrate today on letting someone you care about know just how much you care about them.

THE STARS HAVE SPOKEN

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SAFFIE...................


I GOT IT

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Husband,

Very nice on the good night kiss. Now slide your hands up her torso....

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