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Shades, sounds like the ow is quite insecure if you ask me.

Mrs, if I thought it would help I would LOVE you to knock some sense into him. LOL!!!

He is just too stinking selfish about EVERYTHING!!!!! Especially about D9 asking him to come by himself. He refuses. I don't get it.

I don't know if he doesn't understand what he is doing to her or if he just doesn't give a flying crap because it's not what he wants.

Makes me just want to scream. And I'm sure he will somehow turn this into MY fault. He will never know just how hard I have tried to reassure D9 about everything. I am NOT saying his R with ow is okay, I never will. But I am trying so hard to be supportive of D9 but also encourage her to talk to and visit her dad. She desparately wants to but doesn't want to.

D9 is really a bright kid and she knows that he is not hearing what she is saying and if he is that he blatantly disregards it. That hurts her.

My heart breaks for her.

Love,
Shades

Why do you say that???

I think she is very comfortable where she is and pushing her way forward.

Does anyone wonder if the OW is sitting there as H talks on the phone, encouraging him to force the kids to accept her?

Do you think the OW wants to always feel like a homewrecking ho? Or would she rather be validated and accepted as family?

Even if they are not sitting by the phone poking and prodding, their agenda is always clear and on the mind of the MLCer. The OW is expected to be part of the new life and they don't want to leave the kids behind in the old life. At least they don't want to be made to feel guilty about the loss of contact with the kids.

Just don't expect any of them to understand the simple concepts of "be patient" or "don't rush things". Heaven forbid any of them ever produce a book on CoParentingWithTheHo.

Shades,

Unfortunately, MLCers are some extremely selfish that they put their needs and wants first, even before their own childrens.

They turn everything into our fault, don't they. If they could blame the sun setting on us they would.

They don't see all the little things we do for them and that drives me nuts sometimes.

Like I give my H Friday night, he thinks they are owed to him.

I offered to let him have the kids until Monday for Presidents weekend but he couldn't let me have them the Friday before S6's bday.

They love to take but don't give in return.

My heart breaks for your daughter too. Thankfully I know she is in his goods when it comes to you.

Shades, the fact that he can't come to see the kids by himself makes both of them insecure. If their was trust in their R he would be coming alone.

W2S I do wonder this and in fact I picture it everytime I read about here on Shades' thread.
I love you W2S!

Shades, have you heard from Lissett today?

I haven't heard from Liss. I called her but got her vm. I will try again tomorrow.

I was going to try and call her too but I didn't want to bother her if she was spending it with her family. Which my gut feeling is how she spent it.

W2S,



I think a lot of the time she is. I know when I talked to him last she was. I could hear her telling him I could talk to her. Like I want to, HA!!



She would LOVE for my kids to love her. D5 does, D9 does not.

She even told STBX to ask me how D9 found out they were dating, that they never gave her any indication. Um, helloooooo... You slept in the same bed in front of my kids, you were there, you have each other's pics on your cell phones, you have matching rings.....should I go on?



Can you imagine?!?

Love,
Shades