They didn't try to just force themselves to see better.
Ah, but you CAN force yourself to 'think' better.
With physical issues you simply can't do that at all - otherwise we'd all live forever. But I think we have slightly more control over some/many mental issues.
At least I'd like to think that I do - and also that I don't need to rely on meds to get me there.
Now you can affect your own mindset by exercising, getting a life, and so on, but that only seems to get me so far without the meds. With them, all the other stuff works a whole lot better.
a fine and enviable madness, this delusion that all questions have answers, and nothing is beyond the reach of a strong left arm.
They didn't try to just force themselves to see better.
Ah, but you CAN force yourself to 'think' better.
With physical issues you simply can't do that at all - otherwise we'd all live forever. But I think we have slightly more control over some/many mental issues.
At least I'd like to think that I do - and also that I don't need to rely on meds to get me there.
I don't think so. A clinically depressed person can't just "cheer up." A person with ADHD can't just decide to start paying better attention. These are medical conditions that require treatment the same as arthritis or thyroid problems or asthma do.
There is no shame in getting medical treatment, of any kind, if you need it.
I don't think so. A clinically depressed person can't just "cheer up." A person with ADHD can't just decide to start paying better attention. These are medical conditions that require treatment the same as arthritis or thyroid problems or asthma do.
The confusing thing is that you can, but only for a little while. If you're under the gun, you can pay lots of attention... but it's exhausting, and once the pressure is taken away, you can't do a damn thing for quite a while afterward. And if you keep up the pressure long enough, you still get to where you can't keep going even though you know disaster will follow. I got to that point where I'd go to work and be unable to force myself to even open a project for days or weeks at a time even though I knew things were overdue. I tried and tried and couldn't do it any longer, no matter how much pressure was applied. I knew my only options for supporting my family over the long term would end up being either get treatment or commit suicide and leave them the life insurance. At that point, getting treatment is a no-brainer.
And in any event, there's no way to apply this to long-term responsibilities. You can be pressured to "take care of the finances" for a few hours or days, then when the pressure is gone (who's going to keep up pressure on you to stay on top of finances for months at a time? Not that pressure would even work that long without exhaustion setting in), you'll put it off and forget about it and bills come overdue and you'll get afraid to even look at it and the next thing you know the faucets don't work. There really is no way to force yourself to do it well for such a long period of time without alleviating the underlying problem.
But someone can pressure you to shape up for a few hours, or a few days, and then they say "See? You can do it if you really want to!" and you even believe them because you know you can do it if you really want to, and then you go back to not being able to force yourself to do it, and you get really frustrated and confused. And everyone around you gets frustrated and confused, because they think you can do it and you just don't care enough about them to keep it up.
Originally Posted By: mrs.cac4
There is no shame in getting medical treatment, of any kind, if you need it.
Nope. The shame is in avoiding medical treatment and letting people down who are depending on you and who you've promised to take care of, and missing out on your own chances to achieve your goals and know true happiness.
a fine and enviable madness, this delusion that all questions have answers, and nothing is beyond the reach of a strong left arm.
I simply think that this is one issue that I'd like to tackle without treatment. Why? Because in this case, I believe that PMA (or whatever we call it) would be just as effective as - if not more than - meds.
And healthier, too, in terms of reliance/dependence/etc.
There is a herbal remedy for PMS called Vitex also known as Agnus Castus. I would recommend your wife to try it. There is a ton of literature about it. You take it in the morning every day throughout the cycle. It tastes disgusting so make sure she has a glass of juice or something ready to wash it down with. Try to get her to keep taking it for at least 3 months before saying it doesn't work as it will take time. Also she can improve her general overall level of nutrition and cut right down on caffiene.
Lots of good stuff here as usual.
Fran
if we can be sufficient to ourselves, we need fear no entangling webs Erica Jong
The only thing you lack is discipline. Otherwise... your understanding of women... is great.
At self-discipline, you suck.
If you get the SD (self-discipline), you will be fine.
If you are up for asking a woman about it.... I'm sure I can help. If you would like a guy perspective, ask Marleto, or Stig... maybe Blackfoot... NOP would CERTAINLY help you.
You are beyond bitching. You had best start taking ACTION. Go forth. Multiply. And.... just so you know... go forth and multiply wasn't about having sex and kids.
There is a herbal remedy for PMS called Vitex also known as Agnus Castus
She could also take Evening Primrose Oil - it worked like a dream for me. But, once again, it takes a couple of months to get it into your system and you have to triple the does for the first 2-3 weeks, then down to double for the next couple and then 2-3 a day forever. The only time it stopped working for me was when I went through perimenopause - they I used Omega oils, which were super!! Never did I take an prescribed medication for either, although they were constantly suggested to me by doctors, particularly for perimenopause
Heywyre
M - 57 H - 65 1st A-bomb - Nov 27/02 2nd A-bomb - Dec 13/06 together 21 years *************************** Insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results (Albert Einstein)
