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Thanks NSP,

It would be nice when it is all over, and we can all sit around enjoying a beer together. I am feeling much better today, so hopefully my roller coaster is on the incline.

I hope things are getting better for you emotionally. I got your back too buddy.


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W wants D mid Dec 06 (ring off)
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Hallmark moment "I care for you but am no longer in love with you."
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Husband,

Good, keep talking about me if it gets her talking. Also if there is anything she wants to know about down under, just ask.

Don't forget to take the UDL's, spirit in a can............


AndyV
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W wants D mid Dec 06 (ring off)
W wants separation early Jan 07 (she backdated to Oct 06)
EA revealed end March 07 (Nov 06 W first meeting with OM)
Hallmark moment "I care for you but am no longer in love with you."
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I know this probably won't make you guys feel any better, but my H has done the same thing to me. The OW is inferior to me in all regards. Maybe our spouses find people inferior to them, so they feel better about themselves. At least that is what I think my H did. Just remember, you guys were willing to give your W's a second chance, they weren't willing to take it. The best thing you can do is hang your head high, and know that you did everything you could to try and save your marriage, but in the end it takes two.


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Well said hopeless11,

My W told me she had no "self worth" for the last 12 months. The OM catered for that.

I don't know about your H, but my W has never been able to communicate to me, and let things fester inside. I just hope that she can open up more with whoever she ends up with, and not make the same mistakes.


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W wants D mid Dec 06 (ring off)
W wants separation early Jan 07 (she backdated to Oct 06)
EA revealed end March 07 (Nov 06 W first meeting with OM)
Hallmark moment "I care for you but am no longer in love with you."
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Originally Posted By: andyv
I don't know about your H, but my W has never been able to communicate to me, and let things fester inside. I just hope that she can open up more with whoever she ends up with, and not make the same mistakes.

Same here...My H actually told me that OW understands him and that I didn't meet his needs. I asked what needs have I not met? His answer was that I should just know, it's not the same if he has to tell me. I didn't know that when I said my vows, I signed up to be a mind reader. I should keep a list of all the stupid things he has said to me in the last 8 months. I might get a real laugh some day. I think that it is wishful thinking to think that your W or my H is going to change in their next relationship. They both decided that it is everyone else's fault why they aren't happy. They don't even know where to start to improve themselves let alone put others needs first.


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Like with any new relationship, the euphoria will make them think that everything is fantastic with their new partner. Give it time and the same old issues will arise.

It is funny that my W was still head over heals in love with me 12 months ago, and could not help but tell me and put it in cards, and tell me how much I understood her and how she feared losing me and wanting to stay together for ever.

Somewhere along the way, I managed to speak a different language and no longer understood her..........:)


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It is funny that my W was still head over heals in love with me 12 months ago, and could not help but tell me and put it in cards, and tell me how much I understood her and how she feared losing me and wanting to stay together for ever.

My H was the exact same way and it was actually only weeks before he started his A. It is very scary to see things change that fast. I don't think I will ever feel 100% safe in a relationship again. I could understand a failed marriage after years of troubles, but this is totally different. I often wonder if it is just a character flaw in my H that caused him to deal with life's challenges in this way, or if we all are more likely to cheat than we want to believe.


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I think it is all about opportunity and character. Some people will never let themselves get into a situation where there is a possibility of friendship turning EA then PA, whilst others will.


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My H got really p*ssed off one time at C and said that his "life long partner should just know these things." That's what I was dealing w/. I guess we just keep trying one thing after the other until we get it right or something.


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They are all after "mindreaders".

I like to think of myself as a very talented man, with special abilities. "Mindreading" is not one of them \:\)


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Together 17 years
W wants D mid Dec 06 (ring off)
W wants separation early Jan 07 (she backdated to Oct 06)
EA revealed end March 07 (Nov 06 W first meeting with OM)
Hallmark moment "I care for you but am no longer in love with you."
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