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When you specifically mentioned the big toe, I guess you were referring to having it inserted into some orifice on someone's body? Otherwise, I'm not sure what "kinky" things would be done with it that would not involve all toes or the entire foot.


Okay, I thought about it for a minute. I specifically don't like toenails. They gross me out. I don't want them near any of my orifices.

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Heels are good for bringing a woman up near eye level with you. When she's laying down, though, they just get in the way.


Unless you like the feel of spikes, I guess.

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I've tried hair-pulling. It didn't work well. If there were a soundtrack in the bedroom, the hair-pulling would have been followed by a scratched-record sound. Maybe she doesn't really long to be "overpowered" so much as "lightly but assertively led". She did, after all, find me irresistable at a time when I was about as un-alpha as I could get, so it stands to reason she's not into big power plays.


Hmmm. It's possible that you were being more Alpha than you know or she was desperate so she was looking for any little sign of Alpha and magnifying it through the lens of her desire or maybe you're cute. Most/many women like being "overpowered" but probably not in the same way. I would probably like hair-pulling. I just can't recall anyone ever doing it to me hard enough that it seemed aggressive. I mean I've certainly had my hair held back by men and maybe a bit of guidance was offered but I wouldn't call it "hair-pulling". Also, a guy who liked me in 11th grade used to pull my curling iron sausage curls but that was just flirtatious, not aggressive. I generally like anything that could be described as a throw-down or a pin-down but I don't like being pinned down by the neck. I think this is because it takes me over the line from fight/flight excitement into a sort of "play dead possum" state which is kind of depressive to my drive.

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I haven't tried spanking as a reward, and I'm not too sure it'll work. Playfully threatening it as a punishment does seem to work well within the flirtation dance sometimes, though, especially when I call attention to her disappearing protective padding.


I assume you're responding to this comment by BF.

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which reminds me, eddie never spankk a woman when she has been a b*. Your just rewarding bad behavior. Spank her when she is good, and I mean really good.


BF is just being silly/cryptic or something. If your W is into spanking the most typical vibe is something like "don't do the thing that I really want you to do but say I don't or else I'll do the thing you act like you don't want but really do" -lol

You can play it blatantly sexual or secretly sexual. If you play it blatantly sexual then whatever you "don't" want her to do would probably be something sexual like "I told you not to touch yourself.". If you play it "secretly" sexual then it's more like role play creating a sexual situation from a non-sexual situation, naughty schoolgirl kind of thing.

Why do some women like this sort of thing? I think because it combines quite a few things that women generally do like; teasing, dominance, role-play, clothed sexual interaction(that might just be me -lol- any fantasy that puts a hard-on near my p*ssy with a layer of clothing in between sends my monkey screaming up the tree ) plus you get the usual pain/pleasure dungeon play type thing with increased blood flow to the erogenous zones.

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You just haven't found the right spot with that vibrator. It seems to be a different spot entirely from the one you want to manipulate with fingers.


Vibrators definitely work on me. I just prefer to pedal my own bike (or white water raft)rather than sit on a moped.

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You've never done a Kegel-squeeze during intercourse?


Of course, but I wouldn't call it that in that context. I was wondering if legs-up-on-shoulders-then-crossed might not be good.


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I tried to stay out of this, but I just couldn't.

Chitlins.

If you have eaten sausage, you have eaten chilins. That's what the casings are made from.

So, I don't know how many of you have rimmed, but most of you have eaten chitlins

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So, I don't know how many of you have rimmed, but most of you have eaten chitlins


Well, it is hard to stay away from a debate/discussion of such immense importance to the state of the world and all. I will add you to the category of those who have since you did not deny it which means I was almost certainly correct in my estimate of 4 or more members of this BB having participated in such an activity. Everybody,please remember that I do have a degree in mathematics with a concentration in actuarial science so I kind of have a feel for these things.

While we are on the topic of mathematics and sex, I had a sort of "ah ha" moment recently regarding the geometry of the blow job. When one thinks of the standard phallus there is a certain symmetry of cylindrical design assumed but if one reflects on the matter further and ask oneself "Wider or thicker?" it immediately becomes clear (especially if one considers such factors as perceived relative compressibility of tissue) that "wider" is the correct answer. Once one has gained this valuable insight, it suddenly becomes clear why the sidereal approach which may seem like the right one to take fairly frequently is never as comfortable or effective. You will always semi-consciously have to give your neck a little twist and reduce both your range/depth of motion and small muscle control. Therefore, IMO, it is always a good plan to first achieve a position at 6:00 or 12:00 whenever possible. Of course, if you are in a car or some other such situation this advice perhaps can not be heeded but at least a heightened awareness may suggest alternate solutions.


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MJ, you are truly one of a kind my friend \:\) I can't say I've ever 'met' anyone quite like you, lol.


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Originally Posted By: MJontheMend
While we are on the topic of mathematics and sex, I had a sort of "ah ha" moment recently regarding the geometry of the blow job. When one thinks of the standard phallus there is a certain symmetry of cylindrical design assumed but if one reflects on the matter further and ask oneself "Wider or thicker?" it immediately becomes clear (especially if one considers such factors as perceived relative compressibility of tissue) that "wider" is the correct answer. Once one has gained this valuable insight, it suddenly becomes clear why the sidereal approach which may seem like the right one to take fairly frequently is never as comfortable or effective. You will always semi-consciously have to give your neck a little twist and reduce both your range/depth of motion and small muscle control. Therefore, IMO, it is always a good plan to first achieve a position at 6:00 or 12:00 whenever possible. Of course, if you are in a car or some other such situation this advice perhaps can not be heeded but at least a heightened awareness may suggest alternate solutions.


And you where thinking of this, in a theoretical sense? *deadpan look*

PS: The emoticons on this board suck. Worst I've ever seen. Childish and silly. I feel limited in the expression of, well, everything. *grumble*

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While we are on the topic of mathematics and sex, I had a sort of "ah ha" moment recently regarding the geometry of the blow job. When one thinks of the standard phallus there is a certain symmetry of cylindrical design assumed but if one reflects on the matter further and ask oneself "Wider or thicker?" it immediately becomes clear (especially if one considers such factors as perceived relative compressibility of tissue) that "wider" is the correct answer. Once one has gained this valuable insight, it suddenly becomes clear why the sidereal approach which may seem like the right one to take fairly frequently is never as comfortable or effective. You will always semi-consciously have to give your neck a little twist and reduce both your range/depth of motion and small muscle control. Therefore, IMO, it is always a good plan to first achieve a position at 6:00 or 12:00 whenever possible. Of course, if you are in a car or some other such situation this advice perhaps can not be heeded but at least a heightened awareness may suggest alternate solutions.


I think you forgot to calculate the posterior size, weight, and cheek depth variable.

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Originally Posted By: MJontheMend
Hmmm. It's possible that you were being more Alpha than you know or she was desperate so she was looking for any little sign of Alpha and magnifying it through the lens of her desire or maybe you're cute. Most/many women like being "overpowered" but probably not in the same way. I would probably like hair-pulling. I just can't recall anyone ever doing it to me hard enough that it seemed aggressive. I mean I've certainly had my hair held back by men and maybe a bit of guidance was offered but I wouldn't call it "hair-pulling". Also, a guy who liked me in 11th grade used to pull my curling iron sausage curls but that was just flirtatious, not aggressive. I generally like anything that could be described as a throw-down or a pin-down but I don't like being pinned down by the neck. I think this is because it takes me over the line from fight/flight excitement into a sort of "play dead possum" state which is kind of depressive to my drive.


Yeah, I can see where a choice between holding still and having your airway accidentally squeezed further might ruin the mood for you. I think I'd have to give a resounding "hell no" to anyone who asked me to choke her during sex.

With the hair-pull, it was pretty hard. I'm not in a hurry to try it again; it doesn't turn me on that much, and if she's not into it, it's just as well. I do like pushing/tripping/throwing her a bit, onto a soft surface (her feet don't leave the ground until her butt/back hit the soft surface... I'm not that muscular yet), and she really seems to enjoy it as well.

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You've never done a Kegel-squeeze during intercourse?


Of course, but I wouldn't call it that in that context. I was wondering if legs-up-on-shoulders-then-crossed might not be good.


It turns out to be very good for all concerned. \:\)

Oh yeah, and put me down as a "no" for the rimming.

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And you where thinking of this, in a theoretical sense? *deadpan look*


Pretty smart, aren't you. - lol. Let's just say new context can be revealing.


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I think you forgot to calculate the posterior size, weight, and cheek depth variable.


Well, although I do give you credit for being the most experienced wideband man on this BB, I can tell by this comment that you have little to no experience in giving blow jobs. The ratio of posterior size(length) to depth of mouth from teeth to soft palate is THE essential problem of giving a blow job which one can never overlook (unlike issues of width, thickness, weight). Now, I am 5'9" and my mouth is probably in proportion and the length from my teeth to soft palate is 2.5 inches. So if the standard penis was maybe up to 4 inches long when erect then giving decent head would be a no-brainer. However, this is not the case so it is worthwhile to develop a bit of technique.

The standard novice error to make in this regard is to open one's mouth wider for a moment in order to gain more depth. Bad move. Doing this can cause three problems; teeth exposure, loss of "suction" and excess lubrication. Two better approaches to the problem would be either "the megaphone" or "the shoehorn". With "the megaphone" you lock your fingers to your lips like you're talking into a megaphone then instead of thinking "I'm putting this penis into my mouth" you think "I'm putting my mouth on to this penis" kind of like a pair of pantyhose. The soft palate stretches so as you work your way down you can eventually lose the fingers (or if you are married to Chrome add another hand). With "the shoehorn" you curl your lips over your teeth and then stick your tongue out over your lower lip. Right away you get an extra inch or two of "mouth" depending on how long or flexible your tongue is. The suction is reduced at first but you can press up with your tongue and then pull it in once your palate is stretched.

There are two ways to avoid gagging while maximizing depth. The first and most appropriate in most instances is to simply give the palate time to stretch so you don't go so far back that you gag. The other way to avoid gagging is to swallow. In my experience this only works if you are giving head in a "hot" situation as opposed to a "warm" or "cool" situation because you have to be having a thought/vibe along the lines of "I'm going to suck your brains out." in order for the swallowing to be kind of natural. I should note that I am not referring to swallowing after he comes (which IMO is standard) but while in the act.

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Yeah, I can see where a choice between holding still and having your airway accidentally squeezed further might ruin the mood for you. I think I'd have to give a resounding "hell no" to anyone who asked me to choke her during sex.


I think it might be a particular issue with me because I had severe asthma when I was a child and actually almost died a couple times from suffocation after eating peanuts. I never even wear turtlenecks.

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It turns out to be very good for all concerned.


Excellent! I'm going to call you Lab Rat Eddie from now on ( I will mean it in a friendly way.)


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